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Post by klorentz on Oct 31, 2010 18:24:38 GMT -6
Well it is my hope to have more planted next year. A lot more variety and better planing and not have to scramble to get everything out. Some things we lacked this year like beans and peas and root crops.Here is what is on the table for next year so far. Beans: Jade green beans Fordhook Lima beans Cherokee Wax Peas: Lacy Lady 2 (snap) Lincoln Carrots: Little Finger Not sure what other ones. Beets: Detroit Dark Red : I am the only one that likes good pickled beets. Potatoes : had good luck with Red LaSoda a few years back.They where awesome.They did better than Red Pontiac. Not sure yet on russet. Yukon Gold is another one that has done well for me.Thinking about one fingerling. Garlic: Any variety that will do good here. We love our garlic. I know they should be in the ground now but it is most likely we will be moving. Melons: There are so many tasty melons out there it is hard to choose what ones to get. I want to find a good heirloom watermelon with good disease resistance. This year Sugar Baby died from a wilt of some kind so I want to get something that is a bit more hardy. Radishes Onions: If I can would love to get some plants from Dixondale Farms. Herbs: Want to have a good selection of kitchen herbs to help make my own seasonings and sauces. Turnips: Purple Top White Globe Tomatoes: Lots of tomatoes Ditto on the peppers Summer squash Pumpkins/Winter Squash Corn I think that covers everything Lots to think about so I figure I will be spending the winter selecting varieties.And that is part of the fun of gardening. Kevin
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Nov 1, 2010 8:05:29 GMT -6
I'm glad You have a plan Kevin, Our plan is going to depend on a meeting I have in a week or so with the local Food Coop, the produce manager invited me to sit sown over coffee and see what we can do for each other this coming season, hence, a very large portion of our available garden space, plus a couple nearby neighbors plots may be utilized to pull of our end of the supply chain
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Post by kansasterri on Nov 1, 2010 11:30:35 GMT -6
Next year I intend to plant a row of peas and cow peas, mostly for the wonderfull flowers as peas are tricky in my area. This will enrich the soil and POSSIBLY give me peas.
I saw some pea flowers that were purple and mauve and as wonderfull as sweet pea flowers: I think they were cow peas. So I will have some of those in the row.
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Post by Penny on Nov 1, 2010 11:52:42 GMT -6
Thats great that you already have a plan for next year, Kevin......i need to decide what i want to plant for next year..........decisions decisions!!
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Post by Compost Pharmer on Nov 1, 2010 19:37:28 GMT -6
I plan on doubling the number of Red Fresno peppers( 2 ->4) and putting them in mater cages, since they out grew the pepper cages. Double the number of Cubanella Peppers (1->2) and also plant them in mater cages. My fear is they will outgrow those cages as well. Since they are doing so well this year. I am going to plant them further apart, which means I will need to enlarge the garden space. My maters that got hit by early blight are now starting to set maters. If it doesn't freeze anytime soon, I will finally have some this year. Guess it is better late then never. Only got one picking of beans.
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Post by jerseycub on Nov 2, 2010 6:24:44 GMT -6
Well pholks Ruth and I have decided on calling it quits for next season so we can concentrate on selling our home and moving.
growing a large garden and tending to the business of moving is just to much, and we need a brake from the work. It's time for us to enjoy life.
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Post by colorado on Nov 2, 2010 14:20:15 GMT -6
I plan to have a big garden next year. But it will be how much strength I have. I want to be all set and ready/organized for next year. Plant starting havr pans and pots ready. I plan this time to plant herb seeds right after Xmas. But I need a garden to set them in. And it is full of trees where I want. I need to work over the seed boxes and have them set ready to use and not hunt seeds I want.
Kevins's list is good plus cucumbers and eggplant. I bet he just missed listing. I want root crops for the cellar. And winter squash and pumpkins. I want field corn for corn meal. DIL said she wanted field corn too. No idea why. Older son if I have plenty would use it. If I can keep the raccoons out of it. DIL likes hot peppers . I want to try dry beans. Things to eat year around. I like eggplant. And I found it can be frozen in slices and cut up and dried too. I found a canning time I think on it. I want to try sweet potatoes too. One year I did grow some to eat and next time just too tiny. Wrong kind, I think.
There is always a chance I could get sicker and have to move by son. But I have not gotten down sized yet. Been working on that. I would have only a small back yard then and city water. Rental house. Deer come in to that town and eat lawns and what ever. Yes, I have seen deer in the town. Several times. Yes, the yard has a fence but they could go over it. I have never been in the house but have the floor plan. Have not found one to buy. Good Luck JC in selling and moving. I think I have been at it for 5 years trying to find a place in that town.
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Post by Compost Pharmer on Nov 2, 2010 16:26:30 GMT -6
Colorado says she wants to grow hot peppers. Guess I will have to remember that.
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Nov 3, 2010 9:04:29 GMT -6
I plan to have a big garden next year. But it will be how much strength I have. I want to be all set and ready/organized for next year. Plant starting havr pans and pots ready. I plan this time to plant herb seeds right after Xmas. But I need a garden to set them in. And it is full of trees where I want. I need to work over the seed boxes and have them set ready to use and not hunt seeds I want. Kevins's list is good plus cucumbers and eggplant. I bet he just missed listing. I want root crops for the cellar. And winter squash and pumpkins. I want field corn for corn meal. DIL said she wanted field corn too. No idea why. Older son if I have plenty would use it. If I can keep the raccoons out of it. DIL likes hot peppers . I want to try dry beans. Things to eat year around. I like eggplant. And I found it can be frozen in slices and cut up and dried too. I found a canning time I think on it. I want to try sweet potatoes too. One year I did grow some to eat and next time just too tiny. Wrong kind, I think. There is always a chance I could get sicker and have to move by son. But I have not gotten down sized yet. Been working on that. I would have only a small back yard then and city water. Rental house. Deer come in to that town and eat lawns and what ever. Yes, I have seen deer in the town. Several times. Yes, the yard has a fence but they could go over it. I have never been in the house but have the floor plan. Have not found one to buy. Good Luck JC in selling and moving. I think I have been at it for 5 years trying to find a place in that town. Colorado, I would love to have the canning time for eggplant, We both love it, we grow an heirloom variety, Rosa Bianca, very mild and not bitter at all
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Post by colorado on Nov 3, 2010 10:45:10 GMT -6
CP, I have grown some hot peppers. Anaheim, cayene. jalapeno, cherry and others. Paprika I have in long and hot. I saved seeds from those paprika. Habano, probano? DIL wanted paprika but not hot, wanted like we buy. It said sweet pepper so need a different pepper for it. DIL drys some and freezes some hot peppers. My hot paprika can be used for chili powder. I freeze anaheim for rellentos and dry some hot and sweet peppers for cooking.
Phil, It is in an old Kerr canning book I have,
Wash, peel and cut into cubes or slices. Soak for 30 mins in a brine,using 1 T salt to 1 qt water. Drain, boil 5 mins, . Pack into jars with in 1/2 inch of top 1/2 t salt to pint. Cover with precooking water or boiling water to with in 1/2 in of top. Cap screw firmily tight Process pints 30 mins , quarts 40 mins at 10 pound pressure. Adjust to you atliltude.
you know the rule for low acid food of boiling temp for like 15 mins.
I have been growing 3 kinds of eggplant, Black Beauty, white cloud and a long Asian one.
JC, have you tried beets other ways besides pickled? I like pickled with hard boil eggs add after opening. I canned plain beets, too. They can be fix different ways. See a recipe for beet jelly in the canning book. I think I have saw a recipe for beet relish some where or other. Beets and cabbage and so on.
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Post by Christy on Nov 7, 2010 20:01:34 GMT -6
Good luck with the meeting Phil. could be a very good thing phor you n Laura thats a good list Kevin My biggest plan phor next year is to be more prepared i got some hay but ill need more, gotta make more time phor myself to garden too.
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Post by klorentz on Nov 15, 2010 1:42:32 GMT -6
Dang I knew I was forgetting something!!!! Cukes and eggplant!!!!! Don't know for sure if I will have room for starting eggplant seeds though.As for cucumbers I am looking at two Japanese heirlooms and Diva which would replace County Fair. Diva almost sounds like County Fair with flavor that is just as good.Sounds like a good pickle cuke.
Kevin
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Post by colorado on Nov 15, 2010 13:57:05 GMT -6
Cukes I like Marketmore or such and I do want to try a pickle type one. I like the Armanian one. I want to try big radishes, rutabags roots for the cellar.
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Post by Christy on Nov 15, 2010 17:51:08 GMT -6
I got National pickling cucumbers and israeli melon comming from a trade. sont know what a israeli melon is but ill grow it n see. My veg garden is always bout the same every year. i just know what i like. lol. my flowers are gonna make a big change tho. moving things around this spring! cant wait
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Post by Compost Pharmer on Nov 15, 2010 18:42:35 GMT -6
Colorado: I got some German Giant Radish seeds if you would like to try. If so PM me your snail mail address and I'll send you a bunch.
Christy: You will love the Israeli melons. They are sweet , but take a lot of room since they are vine plants. I grew one vine this year and had two melons. Hope for more next year
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Nov 16, 2010 16:05:55 GMT -6
Kevin, we raise Rosa Bianca eggplant, they sure do good here, medium sized to large, just depends on when they set it seems, the early set blooms turn to a real nice sized eggplant, enough for a whole dish...the small ones are great for the two of Us and a quick stir fry
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Post by klorentz on Nov 16, 2010 20:21:47 GMT -6
Eggplant parm. yum
Kevin
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Post by Christy on Nov 18, 2010 17:26:45 GMT -6
dont think i ever ate eggplant... maybe ill try it someday ? Im deff gonna try the israeli melons though. nice to try atleast 1 thing diffrent in the garden each year.
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Post by kansasterri on Nov 19, 2010 7:07:52 GMT -6
I saw the most BEAUTIFULL pea flowers growing by the side of the road! They were mauve and purple.
After some internet searches I think they are cow peas. They can be used for a cover crop and they are eaten some. I am going to grow a row to enrich the soil, to enjoy the pretty flowers, and to eat some to see how they taste!
I am also going to grow some zucchini larger to grate into baked goods. My folks do that and zucchini stores well once the fruit gets old enough so that the skin gets harder. I can also grate it and dry cupfulls of grated zucchini in the new dehydrator.
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Post by colorado on Nov 19, 2010 8:43:30 GMT -6
Terri, Never thought about drying zucchini, know they freeze it. Will it soak up okay in bread and fritters? That would add more variety ot winter food. I have used ripe zucchini for squash soup as only squash I had. Or does ripe work in bread and fritters? I know you can dry eggplant. I have not tried drying.
I have seed now for some Canadian field pea. Seed are smaller than garden peas and I think like they use for green split peas. Says make good soup.
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Post by spuds on Nov 19, 2010 10:28:40 GMT -6
I am also going to grow some zucchini larger to grate into baked goods. My folks do that and zucchini stores well once the fruit gets old enough so that the skin gets harder. I can also grate it and dry cupfulls of grated zucchini in the new dehydrator. Dehydrated zucc is pretty god in soups,havent tried stew....can dry cross cut slices
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Post by Compost Pharmer on Nov 19, 2010 17:52:03 GMT -6
Christy, If you need some Israeli melon seeds, let me know. I have some drying.
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Post by kansasterri on Nov 21, 2010 9:47:00 GMT -6
Terri, Never thought about drying zucchini, know they freeze it. Will it soak up okay in bread and fritters? That would add more variety ot winter food. I have only had it in chocolate cake, and it dissapeared. I will ASSUME that the zucchini will rehydrate!!!!!!!!! My Mom used to cut the big zucchini in half the long ways and take out the seeds. Then, she would fill it with browned hamburger with spagetti sauce. I never actually cared for that.
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Post by spuds on Nov 21, 2010 13:16:26 GMT -6
I have only had it in chocolate cake, and it dissapeared into the cake. I will ASSUME that the zucchini will rehydrate!!!!!!!!! My Mom used to cut thebig zucchini in half the long ways and take out the seet. Then, whe would fill it with browned hamburger with spagetti sauce. I never actually cared for that. Have a friend who cooks it like eggplant Parmesan and says its really good.Says thats how he used the monster zuccs
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Post by Christy on Nov 21, 2010 18:01:37 GMT -6
CP ill let ya know Thanks! im still waiting on my seeds to come in from the trade. he got mine , he musta gotten busy lol. i do that all the time hehe.
let us know how the zucchini turns out Terry! i dont have room to freeze much so drying em out would be awesome.
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Post by Penny on Nov 22, 2010 8:11:03 GMT -6
You have to try some eggplant, its so good, Christy.
I want to add some more peppers to my garden next year.
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Post by Christy on Nov 22, 2010 17:52:53 GMT -6
i might try them next year Penny. have to get recipes. lol i have no idea how ya even eat eggplant. im adding lots of tomatoes phor canning, n another bed phor a pumpkin patch. I wish it didnt get so dark soon now or id be out there now digging. guess ill do it this spring before planting time. im gonna bring the veg garden all the way up to the shed, n the pumpkin patch on the other side of the shed.
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Post by cottonpicker on Nov 24, 2010 14:16:14 GMT -6
howdy, folks....... I usually hang out over on Pharmer Phil's "Tales from Phormer Times" where I submit my short stories but ocassionally I take a peek at the gardening phorum. I recognize some of the posters' names from other tomato / gardening forums I regularly post at. Good to see y'all.... I had a great garden this past season..much better than 2009!! but it's now put to bed for the wintertime. I also rototilled about 1600 sq. ft. ( 20 plots total) for older friends who can't handle the chore. I grow a little bit of everything...planting for 3 seasons, spring, summer & fall. We prefer French Breakfast radishes. Bibb lettuce, and Chinese greens-- Bok Choi, Michili, Dwarf Choi Sum and Yu Choi---which do quite well in spring & fall. Always have Southern curled mustard and Perpetual Spinach for fresh greens all 3 seasons. Diva &County Fair cukes, a yellow straightneck squash and a Zucchini. Bush beans...sometimes Blue Lake & others, tomatoes (my Favorites) mostly heirlooms but always ond hybrid--- Sun Gold or Sun Sugar. For 2011 I'll be growing: Earl's Faux, Rose,Couer di Bue, Deutsche Fleiss, Large Pink Hungarian, Pink Russian Heart, Linnie's Oxheart, Red Hanky, Kosovo, Siberian, Pervaya Lyubov (First Love), and Vera's. Our favorite tomatoes are usually the sweet heart shapes! Two peppers next year-- Tequila Sunrise & another one. That'll be it. I share a lot of my produce with neighbors here in our retirement community. LarryD
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Post by klorentz on Nov 25, 2010 22:23:13 GMT -6
Hey Larry good ta see ya. Speaking of County Fair Cucumber.............I see Park has it for next year. I am willing to give them a chance since they have new owners. So if I can get some money together I will send out an order to them for County Fair and a few other things.Always did good with their seeds.
Kevin
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Post by Wrennie on Nov 26, 2010 8:43:02 GMT -6
and Perpetual Spinach for fresh greens all 3 seasons. Do tell. We loves spinach. What is the variety called?
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