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Post by mogarden on Sept 22, 2011 6:19:44 GMT -6
About a week and a half ago I planted some late cilantro to go with the last tomatoes for salsa. Here in my zone it will grow into, if not thru the winter without bolting. I assume it's the short days, dunno.
Anyway a couple days after I planted it I saw squirrel signs and thought they must have dug up the seeds. Yesterday it started coming up really good so squirrels don't like it or didn't find many of the seeds. It's all I got left in my container garden except for one tomato plant. I need to plant all the containers in Russian Kale and do "cut-and-come-again".
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Sept 23, 2011 4:11:56 GMT -6
About a week and a half ago I planted some late cilantro to go with the last tomatoes for salsa. Here in my zone it will grow into, if not thru the winter without bolting. I assume it's the short days, dunno. Anyway a couple days after I planted it I saw squirrel signs and thought they must have dug up the seeds. Yesterday it started coming up really good so squirrels don't like it or didn't find many of the seeds. It's all I got left in my container garden except for one tomato plant. I need to plant all the containers in Russian Kale and do "cut-and-come-again". Ya know Mo...you just made me think...I love Kale..but, haven't grown it recently...why, because of the worms... but reading this..brought on a DUH moment...reckon ifin I planted fer a fall crop the damn worms would be fewer...and easier to handpick we planted lots of cilantro early on, some has seeded and re-sprouted...fresh cilantro is great, frozen cubes are...ok...not like fresh we use the seed in our pickle spice mix, so after we cut, eat and freeze all we want...we let it seed out...makes fer a early start from volunteers next spring |
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Post by mogarden on Sept 23, 2011 5:02:01 GMT -6
Phil, I have some BT on hand if I need to treat the kale one time before frost. There shouldn't be too many cabbage butterflies out and about now but who knows with this crazy weather.
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Post by coppice on Sept 23, 2011 20:04:57 GMT -6
I dunno how well cilantro will hold up through a frost, but I'd bet a beer its a cool weather crop.
Maybe in your zone a poly-tunnel might be enough cover? Or a big clear tote as a cloche?
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Post by jack on Sept 24, 2011 1:31:09 GMT -6
Gidday
"Ya know Mo...you just made me think...I love Kale..but, haven't grown it recently...why, because of the worms..."
Hey Fill, what are the worms that attack your kale? I have found that even the white butterfly don't cause too much trouble for kale.
One winter just aftedr we moved down closer to the Pole, I had a bit of multi coloured kale that had been growing in me garden as a left over from the previous owner and I sorta didn't know what to do with it. Then we got hit with a really hard winter and the kale was the only thing that was still eddible through the snow. That's when we started eating it and got to love it as a winter vege.
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Sept 24, 2011 5:51:55 GMT -6
yep the Bt will do it, and I should so Laura can taste Kale...she never has.. even though we plant a lot of cabbage, cauliflower, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, etc. I still prefer handpicking...maybe it's the twisted side of me that enjoys squishin der lil guts outs der butts  but I believe you are saying, and doing the best thing...fall planting the kale...cause there's NOT a butterfly left (except tough ones) after the 30° night we had last week...summer is terrible here tho... which brings me to You Jack...Just plain ol cabbage worms Jack...I wish bro that we didn't have them on the kale, but, they ravish any cole crop here...even ate the hell outa the turnip leaves, and the brocolli we set out about a month ago...b4 I went to squishin...they are fine now... I do spray Bt, or pyrethrum if they get real bad, or I get real busy Coppice, you'd be drinkin after winning that bet...the cilantro is a cool weather crop, and I can't honestly say if a fresh planting would make it here when it dips like the other night...but the now bolted plants (coriander) went unscathed ...cool weather keeps young plants from bolting tho |
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