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Post by klorentz on Apr 21, 2013 20:47:05 GMT -6
Hi all,
I know this subject has been covered before. But this more a best guess on cost for materials needed. My niece has decided to replace her fence so I cant use it.I have 18 plants to set up and can't find any pricing on the materials on the big box web sites .Any guess on cost and your own experience with this would be helpful.
Kevin
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Post by jerseycub on Apr 24, 2013 7:47:25 GMT -6
Hi all, I know this subject has been covered before. But this more a best guess on cost for materials needed. My niece has decided to replace her fence so I cant use it.I have 18 plants to set up and can't find any pricing on the materials on the big box web sites .Any guess on cost and your own experience with this would be helpful. Kevin Kevin: If I understand your question, you are looking to do a Florida weave with your tomatoes this season. I have used this method and find it works perfect for us doing 500 plants at a spacing of 3plants. So if you get 6' T posts for 18 plants you will need 8 posts one at each end and then at every third plant. The posts at tractor supply are $4.29 ea. $34.32 for posts + tax. You will need tomato twine....not sure of the cost. We start at 8" and weave in a figure eight going in and out of the plants, down one side and then back on the other side weaving in and out the same way. Do this every 10" after that as the plant grows. They sell tomato twine in boxes that will attach to your belt and the only other thing you have to do is take an old wood handle from a shovel or dowel, make it 2' long, drill a hole at both ends about a inch in to run your string threw for weaving. It may sound like a lot, but it's real simple and works very well. You can find info on site to show you how it works just Google Florida weave.  This is an example of our row you can see how the string is spaced at the end of the rows, and how the plants look.Click on the picture to enlarge it. |
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Post by BestoFour on Apr 24, 2013 12:15:58 GMT -6
Can you explain this method por favor? Looks like a better idea than a bunch of cages.
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Post by jerseycub on Apr 27, 2013 8:15:55 GMT -6
Can you explain this method por favor? Looks like a better idea than a bunch of cages. The best way for you to see an example of this method would be to Google Florida Weave. I could try to explain, but if you are like me I have to see it. Basically you drive 6' stakes in between every third tomato plant and at the ends of the rows. Then you run string from the beginning post threw and around the tomato plants from stake to stake, going down one side of the row and then coming back on the other side doing the same thing. As the plants grow you continue doing this approximately every 10" until you have reached the top of the stake. There are examples on the internet that will explain this much better then I can, and they show you what it looks like. |
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Post by jerseycub on Apr 27, 2013 8:22:35 GMT -6
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Post by w8in4dave on Apr 28, 2013 7:12:50 GMT -6
I tried it one year and didn't turn out so great!! But now I think I know what I did wrong!! To many tomato plans and not enuf post!! Now I understand better what I was supposed to do!
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Post by jerseycub on Apr 28, 2013 10:05:29 GMT -6
I tried it one year and didn't turn out so great!! But now I think I know what I did wrong!! To many tomato plans and not enuf post!! Now I understand better what I was supposed to do! Ruth and I have tried many methods for keeping the tomatoes upright and have found that the florida weave works best and easyest. We plant 100 plants per 100 foot of row, that is very close so we need to keep them up so everything gets plenty of light. |
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Post by w8in4dave on Apr 28, 2013 10:16:53 GMT -6
Very nice Jerseycub!! I tried it when I had 122 tomato plants ... the weave didn't hold up and they were all over the place! It was not a pretty site! Altho I did get ALOT of tomatoes that year  |
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Post by klorentz on Apr 28, 2013 15:33:12 GMT -6
would jute twine work?
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Post by jerseycub on Apr 28, 2013 18:30:55 GMT -6
IT"S A NYLON TWINE!! if your tomatoes are falling, you didn't tie them properly or the stakes are to short.
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Apr 29, 2013 3:49:09 GMT -6
If you guys look at the site I posted you will see that there is twine made for tying tomatoes, IT"S A NYLON TWINE!! if your tomatoes are falling, you didn't tie them properly or the stakes are too short. If ya ask a question ya need to read the answer so you will understand what the problem is. RIGHT? Just look at the video I posted....I took the time to help, so please take the time to watch. Patience Please JC, we are listening, and learning...but good students, ask questions... imo, What's good in one location, doesn't always work in other locations. You, are blessed with a good wind break here, tree's...are in short supply... and average weekly winds can be up to 30 mph....it's sorta flat... Our friend John had every tomato plant on the ground last fall using the twine shown in the video...this string here:  Specs: Belt loop slots for attaching to belt Poly twine easy on the plant UV stabilized for field use Tensile strength 59 lbs 6300 box *note box is labeled as 2100ft/lb and is a 3 lb box Tensile strength 49 lbs 7500 box *note box is labeled as 2500ft/lb and is a 3 lb box 6300 ft. of it will cost you around 7-10 bucks...depending on the source... Several of the large growers here use Poly baler twine...  Yes, this poly string is bio-degradable; however, it's UV stabilized, and is cheap, or at least it is in this area...compared to the tomato twine... Specs: 250 lb tensile strength 130 lb minimum knot strength Priced per carton of two 4500' spools will cost You around 45 bucks...Higher cost compared to the tomato twine.. But one heck of a lot stronger...and needed here on our flat land. |
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Post by jerseycub on Apr 29, 2013 5:39:35 GMT -6
RIGHT!! I thought I was being patient Phil. Did you read all of my posts on the subject? I realize I may not explain things for everyone to understand so that is why I posted an address for everyone to look at. It's there choice if they want to use this method....I'm not trying to sell it, hey why do I have to explain myself when I'm the one giving as much information as I can?
Next time Ill keep my big mouth shut!! OK
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Post by w8in4dave on Apr 29, 2013 6:16:28 GMT -6
jerseycub, your fine no need to be upset, I cannot watch a video right now because we are about at the end of our month and used up about 90% of our internet usage , I think Hubbs watches video's at work when he is on break and lunch. I get a text about that. So I have to wait a week and I can watch it. But I did not use nylon twine , and I am sure I did not tie them properly, I tried doing this by myself and I know it wasn't right. We do get alot of wind here also like Phil said. Can't leave anything out it will blow away. I got my info from Idigmygarden , someone posted in there about it. I am sure I was miss informed on how to do it correctly. |
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Post by jerseycub on Apr 29, 2013 8:47:12 GMT -6
jerseycub, your fine no need to be upset, I cannot watch a video right now because we are about at the end of our month and used up about 90% of our internet usage , I think Hubbs watches video's at work when he is on break and lunch. I get a text about that. So I have to wait a week and I can watch it. But I did not use nylon twine , and I am sure I did not tie them properly, I tried doing this by myself and I know it wasn't right. We do get alot of wind here also like Phil said. Can't leave anything out it will blow away. I got my info from Idigmygarden , someone posted in there about it. I am sure I was miss informed on how to do it correctly. Not upset with you at all w8in4dave: It helps to have someone with you while tying the string Ruth and I do it together...although they show one person doing it in the video, it's much easier with help. You can also download pictures of the Florida weave, when you get the chance. As Phil said it doesn't work as well in all areas. |
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Post by Wrennie on Apr 29, 2013 14:18:48 GMT -6
Gonna try this
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Post by Wrennie on Apr 29, 2013 14:18:56 GMT -6
Gonna try this
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Post by w8in4dave on Apr 29, 2013 14:59:55 GMT -6
jerseycub, your fine no need to be upset, I cannot watch a video right now because we are about at the end of our month and used up about 90% of our internet usage , I think Hubbs watches video's at work when he is on break and lunch. I get a text about that. So I have to wait a week and I can watch it. But I did not use nylon twine , and I am sure I did not tie them properly, I tried doing this by myself and I know it wasn't right. We do get alot of wind here also like Phil said. Can't leave anything out it will blow away. I got my info from Idigmygarden , someone posted in there about it. I am sure I was miss informed on how to do it correctly. Not upset with you at all w8in4dave: It helps to have someone with you while tying the string Ruth and I do it together...although they show one person doing it in the video, it's much easier with help. You can also download pictures of the Florida weave, when you get the chance. As Phil said it doesn't work as well in all areas. Thanks Jerseycub Yea I kinda did it on my own and really didn't understand what I was doing I guess. When it comes to gardening sometimes if it isn't Daves idea , that means it is not a good idea lol Wink wink ... If you know what I mean!! When my internet is not at 90% I will watch that video and maby have Dave watch it also Sometimes him seeing it is a good thing , he will get a better understanding of what I am trying to do. Now we have both kinds of twine here, we have the Plastic and the regular bailing twine, Hubbs used to bail hay So we have both ... Yay for me!! I am not going to be putting in 122 Tomato plant either lol maby 30 Just enuf for me to do enuf canning .... Salsa and chunks ... Kepping things simple .. |
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Post by jerseycub on Apr 29, 2013 18:22:29 GMT -6
I can't speak for your husband, but as for me Ruth will tell ya I think my way is always best.....and honestly it isn't Ruth comes up with some great ideas. I just try to claim them as mine.  Two heads are always better then one though. If it's real windy were you are located, I would suggest getting steel T post they will hold up much better then wood tomato stakes. |
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Post by klorentz on Apr 30, 2013 8:59:54 GMT -6
What triggered my question is my search of all three major big box stores web sites. and all three came up with the same green twine.I just searched Ebay and only two results came up for the nylon twine.Since I can't just go there and find out what they have or call I have to do a search on the net for cost of a certain product.Take a look at the links below.Btw I did watch the video.Thanks for posting the link.That vid was very helpful. Lowe'sWal-MartHome DepotEbay |
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Post by jerseycub on Apr 30, 2013 11:58:12 GMT -6
What triggered my question is my search of all three major big box stores web sites. and all three came up with the same green twine.I just searched Ebay and only two results came up for the nylon twine.Since I can't just go there and find out what they have or call I have to do a search on the net for cost of a certain product.Take a look at the links below.Btw I did watch the video.Thanks for posting the link.That vid was very helpful. Lowe'sWal-MartHome DepotEbayKevin: call this guy at Martin's Produce Supplies 1-888-381-8641 that is were I get my tomato twine. You can get a 3# box 6300 ft. for $7.50 in a box with the belt loop. |
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Post by klorentz on Apr 30, 2013 12:30:01 GMT -6
Sounds good Jersey.How much does he charge for shipping?
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Post by w8in4dave on Apr 30, 2013 14:32:58 GMT -6
I can't speak for your husband, but as for me Ruth will tell ya I think my way is always best.....and honestly it isn't Ruth comes up with some great ideas. I just try to claim them as mine. Two heads are always better then one though. If it's real windy were you are located, I would suggest getting steel T post they will hold up much better then wood tomato stakes. Yup know what your talking about , Thats what I had I do think it was the twine and the way I hung it ... I will try this again this year If'n I get some help... If I cannot get him to help me, I can get one of his buddies ... Hehehehehe Thanks for all the info jerseycub |
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Post by BestoFour on Apr 30, 2013 16:35:43 GMT -6
I asked for the explanation then went out of town without computer access. Sorry. Thanks for the video. It's a great explanation. Not sure how you and my husband would get along because he thinks his way is always best too.  (course you're both wrong) |
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Post by jerseycub on May 1, 2013 5:28:39 GMT -6
Sounds good Jersey.How much does he charge for shipping? I would say it depends on how far it has to be shipped, they ship by Fed Ex to me. You can call and ask they are nice people to deal with. |
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Post by jerseycub on May 1, 2013 5:37:28 GMT -6
I asked for the explanation then went out of town without computer access. Sorry. Thanks for the video. It's a great explanation. Not sure how you and my husband would get along because he thinks his way is always best too. (course you're both wrong) I am the original old fart who thinks he has the only opinion that matters. But I am wise enough to know that others opinions are right at times also.....I'm just to darn stubborn to admit it.  OH Ruth does slap me into reality when needed.  |
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Post by w8in4dave on May 1, 2013 20:48:14 GMT -6
Lol Ruth I think I'd get along with her pretty good!! |
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Post by jerseycub on May 6, 2013 6:35:07 GMT -6
Lol Ruth I think I'd get along with her pretty good!! She is a tough Red headed Dutch Woman, that doesn't take any s@#t from anyone. That's why I lover her.....she keeps me honest.  |
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Two heads are always better then one though. If it's real windy were you are located, I would suggest getting steel T post they will hold up much better then wood tomato stakes. 
(course you're both wrong)
