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Gidday

I aint been very active on here lately cos me health aint the best and it doesn't leave me head in the right place for much chat.

But this story in our local paper is just too weird not to send to others.




An object of ''considerable mass'' but not a bullet, a meteor, an animal or a flying piece of ice.

Those are some of the conclusions reached by forensic experts looking for the object that killed Rutger Hale (22) a week ago this morning.

Mr Hale died while driving his Subaru up the Maungawera Hill on State Highway 6, from Lake Hawea towards Wanaka, about 6.20am on October 24.

A fist-sized hole in the windscreen, head injuries to Mr Hale and a shattered rear window indicated he was killed by an object passing through his car.

The head of the inquiry into Mr Hale's death, Detective Sergeant Brian Cameron, told the Otago Daily Times yesterday the object ''remains a mystery''.

That is despite a postmortem examination of Mr Hale and a forensic examination of his car at the weekend.

However, Det Sgt Cameron said the examinations had given police ''some clues as to what we should be looking for'' and ''some indicators'' as to what the object was not.

Several theories had been discounted, including that it was a projectile from a firearm or an object from space.

''Anything that would have come in through the atmosphere would generate a reasonable amount of heat that would leave some trace.

''We're satisfied that it's unlikely to be a meteorite or any piece of space debris.''

Asked whether it might have been a piece of ice from an aeroplane, Det Sgt Cameron said ''they generally don't travel parallel to the ground''.

And nothing was found to suggest a bird or an animal was involved.

Det Sgt Cameron said the object had left marks during its passage through the car ''and from those marks, we are satisfied the item exited through the rear window''.

No trace of the object was found in the car.

Tests had not been able to determine whether the object was ''metal or mineral or otherwise''.

''All we know is that it's got considerable mass to have caused the damage that it has.''

The search of the road verge in the vicinity of the incident is expected to continue today.

Det Sgt Cameron said it was ''probably inappropriate'' to say before the search had been completed if any objects of interest had been found.

The first motorist on the scene of the accident last Thursday is also baffled as to what the object could have been.

''There's a few theories going round but I didn't really see what happened, so I have no idea,'' Lake Hawea woman Anita Brenssell (21) said.

''I'm just going to wait until they [police] find something, if they find something.''

Miss Brenssell was travelling from Wanaka along SH6 when she came across the accident just after 6.30am, about 10 minutes after it happened, she estimated.

She first noticed the vehicle's smashed front and rear windscreens and saw Ms Oylear crying and in a panicked state outside the vehicle, next to the driver's side door.

Mr Hale was bleeding and still alive at that time, Miss Brenssell said.

''[Ms Oylear] was talking to him trying to get him to stay alive ... and she was on the phone to the ambulance at the same time.''

Miss Brenssell gave Ms Oylear some clean cloths from her own vehicle to help stop the bleeding, before a second motorist and the emergency services arrived on the scene.

A funeral for Rutger Hale is being held in Auckland today.

www.odt.co.nz/news/queenstown-lakes/279140/objects-discounted-mystery-death

Gidday

Like I said in my original post, " the only care after planting is keeping it watered."

Don't just rely on rainfall because the straw bales are up off the ground so they are more exposed to drying out and that will kill off any plants because life needs water.

Even in Texas Eh Compost Farmer.

Gidday

I am truely sorry and can not even start to understand your distress and loss.

What could be worse than that?

Be strong.

God Bless you.

Gidday

Thanks Fill.

The cold pack method the hot part for the sealing comes from the pressure canner I presume?

We have normally frozen our surplus rather than canning cos when I was a kid, me mom used to can them and they would turn out salty as hell.

Gidday

I had really great success with carrots. Some of the best carrots I have ever grown.

Gidday

Well I just dunno.

Gidday

BestoFour, I am wondering just what you are calling a lady beetle. If it is like we have down here that we call a ladybird, then it is a very good insect to have in the garden cos they live just to eat aphids.

Gidday

Methinks that me and old Cavy would be right at home there Eh!

OCD???

Gidday

Brilliant!

Gidday

What was your weather like? It could have had something to do with a vine rotting off.

The most difficult thing is the amount of water, the straw must never dry out and it is easy to have it too wet too. But apart from that I reckon it's the easiest way of gardening there is.

Gidday

I would be very pleased with anyone praying for me and mine. There could not be anything more comforting.

Compost Farmer, they told me that I had stage 5 out of 5. And as far as agressive types it was 10 out of 10. That was over six months ago and the only times I have felt anything was not right was after what they did to me in hospital. Since I got over that I have had no symtoms what-so-ever and today asked my doctor for some tests to see if what I have been doing is doing me any good.

My prayers go to those who have been affected by thos tornados though.

Gidday

So how many years drought so far?

We had one little area down here had to endure a 7 year drought once. Not nice Eh!

Me and my family, not really all that well. My wife is having CaT scans and thing to find out what up indide her and me with prostate cancer in me bones am trying to prove the doctors who said I have only a couple of years left, wrong by alternative means. So far I feel I am winning but who knows.

Gidday

That is fantastic.

How many do you cater for?