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Post by douglas on Mar 15, 2005 10:44:25 GMT -6
I think this year I'm going to drop out of the green house thing this year since N gas is so expensive, started to make a new one out of old scrap wood and decided to use it for the stove instead so I think I'll try starting my matters in the house instead........
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2005 12:00:50 GMT -6
Doug dont give up! The price of gas IS high, but there are other alternatives.A few we discussed I think at BB's. As far as maters I always start em indoors an then to greenhouse an then to garden. Dont give up Bro! We'll find a way!! ;D Thumb
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Post by douglas on Mar 15, 2005 12:52:04 GMT -6
I thought about making a 4x4 box with a three layer of plastic glass to see if I could save $$$ on colder days but it may cost alot to buy the glass, I'll keep the thought in mind and see what happens
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2005 13:06:56 GMT -6
Here's an idea I was considering for my small garden plot. How about using saw horse brackets and making an A frame type house, using 10' or12' 2x4's for the legs and whatever for the length. A piece of plastic or even a white tarp and yer set. Whatcha think?
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Post by douglas on Mar 15, 2005 13:18:09 GMT -6
Would a space heater be alright to use there on cold nights
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Mar 16, 2005 5:39:00 GMT -6
given enough room...I use...candles! Several contained candles put off enough heat to carry my enclousures for me pumpkins through a mild night (40 degrees) colder than that, I use light fixtures with 100 watt bulbs, took the punkys thru some 28 degree nights..temp inside..52!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2005 7:22:02 GMT -6
There Ya go Bro.! Doug, I've seen the work you put into growin those big ole pumkins. If you can do all that then I know you can pull this off! Search around new home construction sites for lumber alot of times they throw away boards that are'nt "perfect" and will gladly let ya have a few. Just be sure to ask 1st,no stealin! ;D After all, I'm the "burglar" ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO
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Post by douglas on Mar 16, 2005 8:37:10 GMT -6
ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO
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Post by theresa on Mar 16, 2005 10:23:50 GMT -6
another idea here, if you can find an old house or building that is being torn down, most people wont care for you getting the glass out of it. Just ask first!!
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Post by YB on Mar 16, 2005 11:08:02 GMT -6
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Post by douglas on Mar 16, 2005 15:18:08 GMT -6
Thanks YB Thumb I supose T would have plenty of wood from her house I think I may give it a try with the wood frame, and find some more glass panels
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2005 18:11:05 GMT -6
Awesome site YB Thumb
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Post by douglas on Mar 17, 2005 4:24:08 GMT -6
I'll have to use an electric heater because I can't find fresh manure around here
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Mar 17, 2005 5:53:56 GMT -6
Good Link YB, this one here is what I made from willow poles for my tomatoes one year, they grew Great, tomatoes love their natural "sprawl"
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Post by YB on Mar 17, 2005 11:20:17 GMT -6
Keep on subject T, Doug gets alot of manure from this whole forum to make 1000 hotbeds...
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Post by douglas on Mar 17, 2005 15:09:15 GMT -6
ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO Thumb
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Post by douglas on Mar 17, 2005 15:12:48 GMT -6
May have to go with the plastic thing and a few boards and screws... checked on the plexiglass just for fun and can you believe a 30x30 runs around $22.00 :3angry1: :3angry1:
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Post by theresa on Mar 17, 2005 15:44:02 GMT -6
sorrie, had my chance there! Douglas cant you find some old houses that they are tearing down?
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Post by douglas on Mar 17, 2005 18:26:36 GMT -6
Matter of fact there is across the street, but I been grabing it for my stove cutting and stacking it on shelves. Now if it were green wood it would do fine for outdoors.........
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Post by seadog on Mar 17, 2005 19:52:57 GMT -6
try flexible 1/2 plastic conduit pipe and greenhouse grade plastic. take caution to vent it on warmer days. cheap plastic works too.
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Post by theresa on Mar 18, 2005 3:22:54 GMT -6
how you got thoe pipes anchored?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2005 8:10:00 GMT -6
Hey Seadog do you know of of supplier for the greenhouse grade plastic? Every place I've looked they want big dollars. I got frame work for a 12'Wx20'Lx8'H hoop house but cant find reasonably priced glazing. Would the cheap plastic work as well?
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Post by douglas on Mar 18, 2005 10:05:02 GMT -6
Well I bought '8' 1x1/2 treated green wood sticks at $1.49 each.
'4' sheets of plastic glass at $10.00, and I'm going to use the glass from my old greenhouse to save on $ Thumb
I found some pieces of 2x4's across the street to use as a base to the green house.
Foam for a 4 inch piece costs $27.00 bucks, but I was able to get a piece someone brought back for only $5.00 to insulate the floor of the structure to keep the soil warm enough for germination Thumb
A yard stick '25' cents
A few weather proof screws to hold it together.
Some sealer to keep cold air out.
My goal is to make three layer panels all the way around to save on electric since I will be using an electric heater.
It will be about 4x4 all the way around with a lift top on hot days.
I'll see if I can get a pic of it soon as it is finished, that is if I can get the scanner up :4-dontkno
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Post by YB on Mar 18, 2005 10:14:21 GMT -6
Doug,
Make sure you use a GFCI outlet for that heater!.
Keep us informed on your progress.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2005 20:52:40 GMT -6
Glad to hear it Doug,I wanna see pics of those punkins again this year!!
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Post by seadog on Mar 18, 2005 21:17:11 GMT -6
T, its' anchored by shoving the end of the pipe in about six inches on either side. xdx, I got mine from Territorial Seed Company, www.territorialseed.com. I don't recall if I priced it elseware. This is a good seed co. I've done most of my business with them the last few years. I have used cheap plastic. It works fine, just doesn't last as long. Peaceful Valley farm and garden supply has an interesting selection of season extenders including greenhouse plastic. groworganic.comPhils idea of a candle should work really well in there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2005 21:20:51 GMT -6
Thanks!
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Post by theresa on Mar 19, 2005 5:45:09 GMT -6
But how do you keep them from swaying?
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Mar 19, 2005 6:22:12 GMT -6
Theresa, it looks like he has adequate protection from the winds...BUT, I use the same type, although a 'igaloo' design to start my Giant Pumpkins. The design was intentional, I face some BIG winds out here on the Flatlands! The fact that they Do Sway is the key! Skyscrapers sway! Too rigid a structure is more prone to wind damage, in the pictures below, the first pic is the frame, made up of 10 foot lengths of 1/2 pvc tubing, shoved 10 inches in the ground and secured where they intersect with bailing twine. The second is the frame covered with 10 mil. plastic, Pumpkin inside, Obvious from the photos, NO protection from the southwest, It withstood 65 m.p.h.. straightline winds, two days in a row...and I used them for 4 weeks, the date of these pics...April 26th.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2005 6:25:18 GMT -6
I take it the PVC in the ground is for watering?
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