Cold down here in Dixie

[Deleted]

and snow in the forecast....
Might have to borrow a couple of the neighbor's dogs to keep warm.... ;D
Some of ya'll northern folks left the door open, or somethin....

[Compost Pharmer]

This cold spell started way up in Canada. Looks like it is cold over most of the nation. Wish it could have been stopped at the border.
Not supposed to get above freezing, 32F, here until sometime on Sunday.

[jack]

Gidday

I think the word for it these days is global warming.

[jerseycub]

If it's global warmin....Then why is it so friggin COLD!!!

[Spruance]

As usual in the UK, the slightest amount of snowfall and the whole country grinds to a halt. This time around though we do actually have quite a lot of snow as indicated on this NASA satellite photo taken on January 7th.



Intriguingly very little is being said about Global Warming at the moment, although one reporter has said in today's paper that he doesn't know what measures were agreed in Copenhagen last year but whatever it was it is certainly working as it hasn't stopped snowing since.

[jack]

Gidday

Intriguingly........................Godd word Eh!

[ChileFarmer]

Very intriguing, cold here this morning (East Texas) 12° very still with heavy frost. I am sure its not doing my palm trees any good. CF

[Compost Pharmer]

;D I am with you CF. 12F here as well. McKinney, Texas, north of Dallas was down to 9F, that's with out the wind chill. At least the sun is out now. To cold. Can't wait for spring to get here.

[Deleted]

was 12 here too this moanin.......hey, our northern phamily members......close yer door

[mogarden]

Chilly here in TN too. Supposed to break the freeze mark Monday, 39F woohoo.

[Pharmer Phil]

Jan 9, 2010 13:15:10 GMT -6 @rumbuzzn said:

was 12 here too this moanin.......hey, our northern phamily members......close yer door

Now wait a minute Bro...

We just passin along what PENNY SENT
US... wouldn't be proper to hog all da nice cold air

here's how we doin it...

[mogarden]

I knew it! Dern Yankee phans.

[Compost Pharmer]

Hay Phil, Is that one of T. Boone Pickens wind pharms? I think I am gonna sneak up there and turn them fans north and pull up the soon to be warm caribbean air up your way. Maybe we will can plant our gardens earlier this year.

[Deleted]

I'm with CP......sounds good to me.

[jack]

Gidday

Hey Spruance, How are your farmers up there coping with all being snowed in?

[jerseycub]

Tell ya them tunnel frames are lookin better every season.

[Compost Pharmer]

I just got back from up north where I turned the phans around so they will pull the warmer temp up north. Maybe we can blow some of the warmer weather up to Penney and warm here up.

(Thanks Phil for the pic)

[Pharmer Phil]

Ya know Greg, I dunno if it's one of pickens or not. I'll check into it, part of a wind farm that's south of Us a few miles, so many turbines You can't count them all

[Compost Pharmer]

Last summer when we would go down to our vacation house on Galveston Island we would see the tractor trailers with the blades on them. There was usually a convoy of 3 trucks in a row. They sure are large. I'll see iffin I can find a pic of one and post it.

Pickens started a wind pharm in west Texas but stopped because the infrastructure is not in place to transport the electricity to east Texas. He said that when the infrastructure is in place he will finish the project. It is supposed to be a 2 billion dollar project.

Guess he is planning on building these all over the USA. He hates us having to import all this oil, plus he is a business man out making money. There is a big wind pharm at the Livermore laboratory in California. As phar as you can see are the hugh fans.


Found a couple of pics of the blades:
(clickable)

[spuds]

Jan 13, 2010 12:02:23 GMT -6 Compost Pharmer said:

Pickens started a wind pharm in west Texas but stopped because the infrastructure is not in place to transport the electricity to east Texas. He said that when the infrastructure is in place he will finish the project. It is supposed to be a 2 billion dollar project.

Guess he is planning on building these all over the USA. He hates us having to import all this oil, plus he is a business man out making money. There is a big wind pharm at the Livermore laboratory in California. As phar as you can see are the hugh fans.

Im gonna stick my neck out here.T bone is an EVIL man.Yeah,he will put in some wind plants IF WE GIVE HIM A MONOPOLY on nat gas vehicle fuel.When he didnt get THAT so long wind farms.

Also his wind farm property coincidently sits on a large aquifer which he now controls the water on.

T Bone is looking out for nobody but T Bone.

But he does get good propaganda press doesnt he?

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[Penny]

Geeez.......i thought my ears were burning

If its any conselation..............up to a couple days ago.....its been COLD here too, colder then normal for even us............temps dipping to -45 and lower at night, and from what they say up here, it all started with a huge cold mass that originated from Russia/Siberia area

Darn Russians

Hey Phil..............i was looking at a map of Ontario and Minnesota.......and i am pretty much directly across from Minneapolis............where are you?

[Compost Pharmer]

I agree with you spuds. It looks like T. Boone may have given up on the Texas wind pharm. Now he is moving north to Minnesota.

finance.yahoo.com/news/Pickens-Slashes-Wind-Turbine-indie-1358155085.html?x=0&.v=1

He does seem to want to control the natural gas in this country.

[spuds]

Jan 14, 2010 8:08:45 GMT -6 Compost Pharmer said:

I agree with you spuds. It looks like T. Boone may have given up on the Texas wind pharm. Now he is moving north to Minnesota.

finance.yahoo.com/news/Pickens-Slashes-Wind-Turbine-indie-1358155085.html?x=0&.v=1

He does seem to want to control the natural gas in this country.

The T Bones water plan includes the right to put in pipes under ANYONES property under emminent domain laws and supposedly gives him right of way on your property? I dont remember the details,maybe some Texas folks could fill us in?

Then he tried to get a bill passed in Calif that would have put BILLIONS in subsidies for nat gas vehicles but when you read the bill it basically would benefit Pickens companies to totally turn all his trucks into nat gas vehicles and he alone would be the guy to use up the vast majority of all this 'free' taxpayer money.Unbelievably the voters here saw thru it and voted it down,amazing for a state that constantly votes for new taxes.

Part of the water story,that man scares the heck outta me!Look at those prices and HE wants to control what you literally cant live without.The windplants is just a smoke screen for a much more nefarious set of plans,and water,which you hear almost nothing about is where he really wants to be.
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As Texas' metropolises grow, the search for municipal water has become expensive and intense. Pickens hopes to capitalize on this by tapping the groundwater of four Panhandle counties and sending it by pipeline hundreds of miles to one of three Texas cities: El Paso, San Antonio or Dallas-Fort Worth. The 654-mile pipeline Pickens envisions for El Paso would cost a cool $2.1 billion, but he figures he can amortize that with the high water fees the city would have to pay.

On Dec. 26, the New York Times carried a front page story about the Southern California Metropolitan Water District's plan to buy 145,000 acre-feet of water per year from Cadiz, Inc., a private company, yet Pickens' plan is bigger and more audacious. For starters, Pickens says Dallas would have to pay $675 per acre-foot for the water, while El Paso, separated from the Panhandle by a mountain range, would face a $1,400 per acre-foot charge. By contrast, the Southern California deal sets an initial levy of $230 per acre-foot.

Water for Pickens' plan would come from the Panhandle portion of the Ogallala Aquifer. One of the largest underground repositories of water in the world, the Ogallala stretches from Texas to South Dakota and once held more water than Lake Huron. That was a century ago, before the advent of cheap electric pumps gave farmers the power to lift water hundreds of feet. Statistics on the Ogallala are unreliable, but here's one: The aquifer waters one-fifth of the nation's irrigated land. And here's another: In less than a decade from its peak in 1978, the area of agricultural land irrigated by the Ogallala fell by 20 percent, at least partly because of the Ogallala's depletion.

The Ogallala isn't like rivers, lakes or even most other aquifers: It has no source of replenishment. It holds "fossil water," sealed underground for hundreds of thousands of years. Once it's used, it's gone forever. Now, as the Ogallala's water level continues to fall, Pickens is proposing to expand its use, so far chiefly agricultural, to include supplying large, distant cities.

He's anything but apologetic. "These wild statements like 'Pickens is going to dry up the Ogallala' and 'It's going back to a Dust Bowl' and all that stuff are baloney," Pickens said over the phone. "Hell, I'm not about to dry up the [Ogallala] reservoir. But I don't mind selling surplus water." Alas, one man's surplus is another's unsustainable resource.

In most states, Pickens wouldn't enjoy the right to buy and sell groundwater, but Texas is the heart of the heartland, where regulation is considered inconsistent with the God-given right to make a ton of money. Thus, it's the only state in the arid West that legally acknowledges the "right of capture," by which landowners have title to the water beneath them. (Surface water is another story: Even in Texas, rivers and lakes are part of the state's realm.)

[Compost Pharmer]

This reminds me of the when the Hunt brothers tried to corner the market on Silver, years ago.

[spuds]

Doesnt it tho,and look what happened to them.

We will get there without folks like that.

Its really cool how many folks have gotten on to the wind band wagon.Once they are put in,if done in a manner that doesnt destroy pristine areas,they seem to be accepted well. Of course some extremist dont want any power anywhere....what can you say,eh?

The cost of solar panels,has dropped through the floor.About 2000 was running at best 4 dollars/watt.Then around 2005-6 went up to about 6 dollars plus. Then the market just collapsed,you can get really nice well proven mono crystalline panels,new,for 1.78 a watt right now.Not so proven thin film panels at 1 dollar a watt.

I bought a bunch of used panels at 2 dollars a watt,then Bud got some at 1 dollar a watt,and another friend got used Unisolar-64 watt thin film panels at 60 cents/watt,off of Craigslist here in Calif.

Real exciting opportunity to get into solar right now.Hard to say if its an anomaly or if we are seeing a dynamic change to permanent lower prices.