rotten board replacement

[Wrennie]

I have a rotten board on my porch. Its along the floorline, at the outer corner.
How do I get it out and replace it without having the porch fall on my head?


same spot from outside;

I dont have any idea why theres screen under it.

guess i should bet a shot of the whole thing.

[Tonnymonk]

I'll ask Doug when he gets home phrom work today, Wrennie! As you know- I know how to tear out rotten boards, but replacing em.....well- Thank God Doug knows how to do that!

[Wrennie]

Yeah, I didnt pull up the rug on the inside cause I kept getting flashes of your bedroom rug incident in my head!

[Deleted]

Wrennie it looks to me like ya got a few pieces of wood to replace.
1st pull up the floor covering an see how much water damage there is.
Chances are its gonna be more than what is showing.

Then yer gonna have to take some of the wall down.
Just the paneling!

once ya get the whole corner exposed ya need to find and fix where yer gettin the water from.
Then replace all wet and/or rotten wood.
after you get the water to stop and the new wood in place ya might wanna think about sealing the wood with a quality water repellant.
DO NOT USE TREATED LUMBER INDOORS!!!
CHEMICALS IN THE WOOD CAN LEACH OUT INTO THE AIR YOU BREATHE!

[Wrennie]

Thats a screened porch,so treated might be the way to go. ? maybe?

[Penny]

Oh boy Wren, i hope its doesnt turn out to be a big job!!!

[Wrennie]

OK
Heres the corner its in


I pulled back the rug to find..... linoleum squares.


The downspout obviouly needs an elbow at the bottom


BUT, the crackling foundation angles inwards!
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They made a foundation of cinder blocks, probably right on top of the ground (uh hello frost heaves! Guess it doesn't matter if you only use it in the summer.) Then I assume a platform of 2 x 4's right on top of that.
Ho-boy I see a BIG can-o-worms opening!

[Deleted]

Not an easy fix but not too hard.

Looks like you'll have ta do a little concrete work though.
Seeing the rest of the pics helps

beings its a porch yes you can use treated for your sill plate.

Tear out the inside wall first so ya know what materials to buy.
And YES you need 2 get that water directed away from the house!

[botebum]

Identify where the water is coming from or any fix is a band-aid. In your first post you questioned why there was screen behind the boards. This an effective, age-old way to keep out critters. Not a bad idea to replace it with wire screen, not fibreglass, when you're done fixin' the problems.
How to fix- If you actually have a house that is built without frost depth footers then you have some real problems. Sorry. If that's the case then you need to go back and look at the transfer paperwork for your house, especially the disclosure statement. If you can show that they knew the house wasn't up to snuff, then you have recourse against the seller.
What you need to do is jack up the entire house and put a real foundation under it. This is a major expense and may not be viable for you. Bandaids are handy for a short term fix but the problem will reoccur in time.
The best long/short term remedy that I can suggest is to cut out all the rotten wood and replace it. Go around the entire house and use a Sawzall(reciprocating saw) to cut all your wood siding about two inches above ground or concrete contact. Fill the space you have created with pressure treated(PT) wood. If you have areas where the concete sill is pitched back to the house, get out the hammer and cold chisel, or better yet, a chipping hammer(rent one for less than $65) and cut away until you can create a sill with mortar that pitches away.
This is a huge problem with "camps" up north. You may notice that many people who own "vacation" homes in your area spend most of their "vacation" working on the house.

Doug

[crazy1]

This is a porch I'm guessing.
Use pressure treated at any point on it.
The damage looks as if the water ran out of the gutter (outlet blocked) or you have a crack in the fiberglass roof. Either way there's a bit to be done.
I agree to cut away the wood from the foundation, but that's T-111 a very water absorbing wood.siding. If treated properly it's a good type of siding. This was NOT properly treated and is most likely trash. Sorry.
First thing I'd do is add an extension from the down spout to get the water away immediately. Then look to see how much wood is rotten in the corner. Remember the corner is the structural support for the roof load most likely.
Probably needs total replacement, as well as the header by the looks of the outside. The fly rafter or the facia board needs replacing, how does the rafter look? Hopefully not too bad.
Xdx is correct about not using PT wood indoors, but the new copper oxide treatment is safe for use indoors where ever wood meets concrete or steel. But remember a sill seal will still be needed on the concrete.
Odds are there is no foundation under that, most summer houses/camps weren't built to last the centuries.

[douglas]

What kind of wood was used for the flooring? almost looks like particle board or something?

[Wrennie]

I have to pull up some of the linoleum to see.
The rafters look good from thr inside.

[Deleted]

Wrennie here is a pic ya might find helpful

It'll show ya correct framing fer a window.

To me it looks like the problem all along has been that down spout.
Get yer linoleum pulled up and let us see wat ya got.
You can also safely remove the paneling to inspect yer framing.
Then take another pic and we can talk ya through this!

[Wrennie]

Thanks everyone. I will update with more pictures as I get moving on this.

[nnbreeder]

It looks like they ran the top plate out to support the end rafter. You can use a 4x4 out twords the end with a screw jack under it to support the weight of the roof or screw it to an inside rafter and accomplish the same thing. Another thing I would do is to go just under the rafters and hang tarps, it may take longer than expected to fix and it's easier to hang them now instead of the middle of the night in an unexpected storm.

[Christy]

whod a thought one lil hole would cause so much work i know how ya feel, i scraped all the linoleum off my kitchen floor to put new down n found under my sink was rotted from a slow leeky drip.

looks like a summer job wrennie hope you can get it fixed soon,

[macybaby]

Hope you got things fixed up. We had a bit of a rot problem to deal with last fall when we gutted part of our house. We knew we had some rot, but it was way worse than we thought.

we pulled up the flooring and found a few bad spots.


Decided we'd better pull up the entire subfloor and see what was underneath.



We discovered over half of the floor joists had problems, many were rotted away. We knew that corner of the house was lower, didn't realize this was why.

Since the house was ballon framed, it wasn't that hard to jack it up and cut out all the rot and replace it.




This resulted in the two end walls hanging in the breeze, so they needed to be rebuilt also.



And yes, we were out working by lantern light.

We started on the serious work the first of October, and then had a mad struggle to get everything buttoned enough before the cold weather set in.

Then we spent the rest of last winter putting up sheetrock.



I am so glad to be almost done with the house!

Cathy

[douglas]

You sure do have yer werk cut out for you, but it will be nice when it's completed