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Post by jeanette on Jul 31, 2005 17:22:34 GMT -6
my pumpkin is very sick.. the leaves are all turning yellow, the pumpkins just get about as big as golf balls then they rot... it just stopped growing... nitorgen deficitioncy?
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Post by Songbird on Aug 1, 2005 13:18:36 GMT -6
How disheartening!! Sorry to hear it jeanette!!
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Aug 1, 2005 15:25:26 GMT -6
These are hand pollinated pumpkins rotting? After seeing your pumpkin jeanette, I would suspect, if anything, that it may have wet feet, it does sit sorta low. but that alone should not cause the pumpkins to abort. Humidity does play a role in the success/failureof the pollination. as does to much water, too soon, after pollinating.
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Post by jeanette on Aug 1, 2005 15:41:59 GMT -6
jerry said the soil in this area was alkali, maybe that's it.. we got about 5 inches of rain all total after i hand pollinated the one you saw... that one died but i had another i didn't hand pollinate because the bees were already in it... the leaves that are in the garden are turning yellow and dying a slow death, the part that is in the grass looks OK but it's not really growing...
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Aug 2, 2005 3:00:56 GMT -6
Sounds Like what is called "alkaline soil induced chlorosis". Some nutrients, particularly iron and manganese, chemically change in alkaline soils to a form plants cannot absorb through their roots. This problem worsens in poorly drained soils. Signs of this problem show up in the new leaves, which may be small and appear yellow with green veins. At this point, and Only because it is a Emergency...I would: apply sprays of epsom salts, Get some Hog, cow or horse crap, (you need the Urea) maybe jerry could help. take about two shovel fulls and add to 5 gallons of water, let it sit three days, mix with another 5 gallons of water and drench Mr. Pants... If it is an iron deficiency...well thats tougher....but I do have something I can give you to help. Not alot can be done after you plant, but for next years attempt: amend the soil with sulfur and organic matter to increase acidity before planting. Most Important...DON'T GIVE UP!
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Post by jeanette on Aug 2, 2005 9:16:45 GMT -6
we talked about urea... and where to get some... alls we could come up with is... well you know.. i don't think they just sell it to people at our elevator i sprayed him down with 2 gallons of water and epsom salts friday or saturday.. should i do it again?
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Post by jeanette on Aug 2, 2005 13:12:13 GMT -6
well i found the problem, i dug around the base of thev main stem.. it was all rotted and gushy.. i picked it up and inside were big, ugly, white, fat, undulating, grub like worms... i cut that part off and buried the parts that were left and looked healthy... it's not looking good for mister pumpkin pants...
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Aug 2, 2005 13:55:32 GMT -6
Did they look like this? Squash Vine Borer...see Giant Pumpkins Part 3 Sorry to here it jeanette, usually you will see holes bored at the main stem, with 'Fras' surrounding it. It may well be the end for Mr. pumpkinPants...but don't let that sway you... keep a eye on him, and add water, you have any willow trees near? Soak a handful of crushed, small branches (about a quart crushed into strands, in a bucket of water for about 4 days, may stimulte rooting, or Humic Acid...I can fix you up with that.
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Post by jeanette on Aug 2, 2005 15:24:40 GMT -6
yep thats them alright... they were under the vine so i couldn't see them.... we used to have a big willow tree in the front yard but the tornado got it, humm there might be willows at the poop bridge.... poor MPP.... but there is always next year... i kinda figgered this would be a learning year..
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Post by jeanette on Aug 2, 2005 15:29:07 GMT -6
i used sevin on it through out it's growth but alas, it must not have worked... i didn't want to use alot of pesticides after it started to flower because the bees are finally comming back around and i didn't want to hurt them...
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Aug 2, 2005 19:07:21 GMT -6
The lil boogers are sneaky, Once inside, only splitting the stem, or injecting sevin, or another insecticide will work.It may survive,I just don't know how big a pumpkin it will produce...We'll get that 50 bucks outa Jerry...somehow : :...Maybe I could come graft one of ours on to yer vine!
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Post by jeanette on Aug 2, 2005 19:29:33 GMT -6
jerry was telling me there is something that is absorbed through the leaves.. i suppose you have to have an applied pesticide licence to get it... hummm i think i know someone who has one of those...
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Post by jeanette on Aug 2, 2005 19:30:48 GMT -6
anyhoo losing the bet ain't gonna be all bad either
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Post by jeanette on Aug 2, 2005 19:32:39 GMT -6
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Post by Compost Pharmer on Aug 2, 2005 20:28:15 GMT -6
I have been tilling in ground up orange peelings for the last three years. Have not had any grub or cut worm problems yet. Don't use to many peelings or it will kill all the good bugs.
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Post by jeanette on Aug 3, 2005 7:32:31 GMT -6
thanks greg!! um how much is too much??
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Post by Songbird on Aug 3, 2005 13:24:04 GMT -6
learn sumpin' new every day!
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Post by Compost Pharmer on Aug 3, 2005 17:38:56 GMT -6
I usually till in 2 hands full, I would say is two oranges ground up. My garden size is 22' X 24', the size of a double car garage, I currently have about 3 lbs frozen and use 1 or 2 quart jars full each time I turn the compost heap.
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Post by tigolbittys75 on Oct 1, 2005 0:28:38 GMT -6
Hey, any good tips for grub worms in the midwest. Got myselph a bad case of 'em too. Ain't haveing much apple luck either. Dang bugs!!!!
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Oct 1, 2005 17:24:37 GMT -6
Hey, any good tips for grub worms in the midwest. Got myselph a bad case of 'em too. Ain't haveing much apple luck either. Dang bugs!!!! Grubs ? you talkin' the Lawn variety? You will probably get better answers to this in the lawn and landscape board...But I Know we can answer this!
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