trampoline jumping pad

[jeanette]

i have an old jumping pad from a trampoline in fact, i have two.. i was thinking of laying that down and covering it with dirt from somewhere else..( hummm i wonder where i can come up with that.. ;D ;D)
i thought if i planted my pumpkins on that, it would keep out the vine borers.. your thoughts???

[deb65802]

I am not hopeful that would work . they lay the eggs in the soil under the stems and crawl and fly up there. I encourage you to try though. what do you have to lose.

Maybe it will.

[douglas]

Not too sure if that would work with the Adult flying around laying eggs on each leaf stem
I'm going to try using a duster a few times to see what happens This stuff is all natural and is not toxic to animals or humans

[Pharmer Phil]

gotta say no, Lets go in on some neem granules jeanette.pm me.

[crazy1]

Are you dusting with diatomatious earth. Sorry iph the spelling ain't right.

[douglas]

Well this stuff is like seven but is made by Bayer,thought with dusting it would get under the leaves as well to kill cuke beetles, SVB's, squash bugs too
Time after time I found clusters of brown squash bug eggs and smashed them
I had a problem with cuke beetles on my bush beans one year and the dust killed them in a matter of days

[Pharmer Phil]

Neem Granules, also sold as neem cake, is very good at controling some of the worst pumpkin, and garden related pests.
It gets them when they are in the soil, before they have a chance to get you. The granules are the by-product of Neem oil, and is the chaff left behind, after they press the oil from the seed. Cucumber beetles and SVB's are amongst the ones it attacks. I work it in the soil, at about a coffee can per 100 square foot, bonus is, it has a good amount of nitrogen...Sorry to tired to bring up da numbers right now...but Ya know me, I'll be back!

[crazy1]

Do these neem cakes contain nemitodes? How do they work Sorry, know you're a busy man.

[Compost Pharmer]

Don't use 'seven'. Very toxic.

[jeanette]

it's gotta be toxic or, it won't kill the bugs

[douglas]

Just have to be careful how it's applied especially around animals and kids
I have a place on the other side of the garden where the pumpkins will be AWAY from the doggies

[Pharmer Phil]

Well, You are right jeanette, It is toxic, it kills bugs.
But, all of the organics, barring a few, are Toxic also.
The problem I have with sevin, aside from the effect it has on the earth, is that it is Non-Selective. killing the good...with the bad.
I can't risk loosing the beneficials, that do a much better job, at absolutely No Cost, just for a quick fix. Like I stated before, You can't just throw the chemicals away, you have to walk a long path to be organic, sometime, the other things are needed...I won't loose a crop that we need in the pantry, but have a very good chance, with my lil "friends" out there working for us, even while we sleep.

[Compost Pharmer]

Thanks Phil. Very well put. Still don't like to use the chemicals. Just not good for us, the environment, or the good 'organic' bugs. Every lady bug I catch in the house, I transport out to the garden where they can do there 'good' work. Looks like it will be a up hill struggle to get Jeanette converted over to our side. But we will never give up.

[deb65802]

will neem granules kill the squash vine borer?? and squash bugs in general.

I hate to lose so many of my favorite veggies.