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Post by mogarden on Jan 6, 2013 4:41:49 GMT -6
I still have seeds from last year but I received an avalanche of catalogs in the mail....so decided to try a couple new tomatoes, well new to me, I never grew them before.
Kellogg's Breakfast sounded good, as well as Black Krim and Stupice for an early. What about y'all? Are you planning to plant any "new" tomatoes?
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Post by w8in4dave on Jan 6, 2013 18:33:07 GMT -6
I have heard of all those tomatoes b4 mo , but not grew them all , I have tried Stupice was good but a lil mushy for me, Black Krim I liked alot , a lil small but very good .. I have not tried Kellogg's altho I have heard of it ... I want a big paste tomato I forgot the name tho.. I will have to look it up  Now I figure you being in Tennessee you may have better luck with the Stupice ...Good luck , me know how you like them ... |
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Post by Penny on Jan 8, 2013 7:14:03 GMT -6
I havent decided yet what to grow this year, although i have grown the ones that you mentioned Mo.  For me, i found that Stupice cracked alot for me  , but i was told thats because of the extreme heat that we had, but it sure was tasty though  LOVED black krim though, it'll most likely be on the list again this year |
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Post by jerseycub on Jan 11, 2013 11:27:52 GMT -6
I still have seeds from last year but I received an avalanche of catalogs in the mail....so decided to try a couple new tomatoes, well new to me, I never grew them before. Kellogg's Breakfast sounded good, as well as Black Krim and Stupice for an early. What about y'all? Are you planning to plant any "new" tomatoes? The only one Ive grown is stupice, and it was good for canning. I like to stick with a few known verities such as Mortage lifter, or Big beef for those slicing types and Sanmarzano for sauce. This past season we grew Better boy and they grew and produced very well. Also we grew Brandywine and they were ok but had a lot of cracking due to high temps and heavy rains. The better boy faired much better in those conditions. Sanmarzano were excelent threw the season and out of 100 plants we harvested better then 800# The Roma didn't do as well especially in the higher temps. We will most likely plant mortage lifter and better boy for market and sanmarzano for canning and sale. Big beef is one I would like to try but I don't want to grow more then two verities of slicers, as I need room for peppers and eggplant in the same field. I would like to put in about 200 bell peppers this season and for me thats about four rows. |
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Jan 12, 2013 8:17:52 GMT -6
I have heard of all those tomatoes b4 mo , but not grew them all , I have tried Stupice was good but a lil mushy for me, Black Krim I liked alot , a lil small but very good .. I have not tried Kellogg's altho I have heard of it ... I want a big paste tomato I forgot the name tho.. I will have to look it up Now I figure you being in Tennessee you may have better luck with the Stupice ...Good luck , me know how you like them ... Wendy.. Black Krim..small?? We never have any under a half pound..or about softball size...they are a beefsteak type ya know...maybe it's da gardener..    J/K probably climate/soil sure are alot of new varieties this year, some sound good though. For Sauce, we'll stick with our strain of Amish paste..they are consistently 8-10 ounces and the best and easiest to process We tried Speckled roman last year, and although tasty and Very pretty..., I do not like the core that runs through the center...BIG P.I.A. when processing. As for new types for Us this year; we are trying Oxheart Pink and a Yellow Brandywine...yellow tomatoes also sell well at the market. This year for market demand we need 50 determinate/semi-determinate plants ... we have a few Pear Goliath and we also are going with: Martian Giant Slicer TOMATO | 95 days. (Semi-determinate) Originally developed for organic market gardeners by Seeds of Change and further selected by Bill Reynolds of Eel River Produce. A juicy red slicing or beefsteak tomato with a firm texture and a good acid/sweet balance. It has done well in our trials---even in the very wet 2004 season it produced loads of big, beautiful tomatoes for our grower's Saturday market stall. |
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Post by jerseycub on Jan 12, 2013 11:11:06 GMT -6
Black Krim I have looked at that verity a few times and couldn't decide on the investment for an entire crop. Let me know how you do with them Phil.
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Post by w8in4dave on Jan 12, 2013 20:09:41 GMT -6
Welllllll hmmmm maby I had them confused with something eles ... Or maby it was where I got the seeds from ... hehehehe cannot be da gardener!! I do like the Oxhearts actually LOVE them!! I was going to look around for a big paste type ... The Oxhearts may be what I pick .. Altho in the past I loved them it didn't seem like I got alot from each plant ... I was looking into an "Amish Paste" but the ones I had b4 were not very big , altho very prolific ... So it seems you get one or the other ... I'd rather get the other lol |
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Post by jerseycub on Jan 13, 2013 8:52:41 GMT -6
Welllllll hmmmm maby I had them confused with something eles ... Or maby it was where I got the seeds from ... hehehehe cannot be da gardener!! I do like the Oxhearts actually LOVE them!! I was going to look around for a big paste type ... The Oxhearts may be what I pick .. Altho in the past I loved them it didn't seem like I got alot from each plant ... I was looking into an "Amish Paste" but the ones I had b4 were not very big , altho very prolific ... So it seems you get one or the other ... I'd rather get the other lol w8in4dave: I have had the same results with Amish Paste in the past, some fruits can be large, but not consistent. That's why I like San Marzono for plum type. They are very consistent in size and production. Roma is a good plum to grow in conjunction with San Marzono, because they blend well together for making a rich and thick sauce. Roma seams to be a little more finicky in hot and rainy weather but can be a good producer. There are so many tomato verities out there, that if you have the time,space,and money you could have a ball trying them all. For us we need a good proven producer so as to make a profit at market, that is why we stick to the more known market verities. |
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Jan 19, 2013 2:57:07 GMT -6
that's why I did a little Amish crossing with another OP tomato to get the consistently larger variety we raise..the seed has come true for many years now...once in a blue moon it will throw a sport, but very seldom... so it's a great tomato with lots of uses... I do know what You are saying JC, market-buyers.. Bedding plants... Some come seeking Big Boy, Beefsteak and Roma...(types we rarely grow out) Usually we still are able to make a sale, selling them heirloom varieties with similar traits(although tastier ) But this year for those, and for the Ace Hardware in Kenyon (quantity buyer) we will raise some bedding plants of each... it's like hot peppers..everyone buys Jalapeños and Serrano peppers, some will get WiLd and go with Habanero...very few venture into the super hots it's LURE them in with the safe/well known varieties...SEDUCE them with the more exotic |
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Post by mogarden on Jan 19, 2013 4:55:36 GMT -6
Phil: I'll have to say I never heard of the Martian Giant tomato, but then I don't get out much, lol. Good luck with that one!
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Post by jerseycub on Jan 19, 2013 6:50:07 GMT -6
that's why I did a little Amish crossing with another OP tomato to get the consistently larger variety we raise..the seed has come true for many years now...once in a blue moon it will throw a sport, but very seldom... so it's a great tomato with lots of uses... I do know what You are saying JC, market-buyers.. Bedding plants... Some come seeking Big Boy, Beefsteak and Roma...(types we rarely grow out) Usually we still are able to make a sale, selling them heirloom varieties with similar traits(although tastier ) But this year for those, and for the Ace Hardware in Kenyon (quantity buyer) we will raise some bedding plants of each... it's like hot peppers..everyone buys Jalapeños and Serrano peppers, some will get WiLd and go with Habanero...very few venture into the super hots it's LURE them in with the safe/well known varieties...SEDUCE them with the more exotic Phil: For me personally I prefer the older heirloom verities of tomatoes, trouble is they don't seam to be as good a producer or as disease resistant. For some reason......and I think it's the weather here, many verities of tomatoes are hard to grow. I know what you are talking about when it comes to convincing a customer on trying something they are not familiar with. I had one lady come here that wanted one verity of eggplant. I convinced her one day to try another one that I knew was much better in flavor. Rosa Bianca, she tried it and the next week she said please tell me you have more of those wonderful eggplant......I was tempted to say yes for twice the price But no I didn't do that...point is it is hard to convince most people to try something new or to us old, because they are used to that same old thing. |
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Jan 20, 2013 9:13:23 GMT -6
that's why I did a little Amish crossing with another OP tomato to get the consistently larger variety we raise..the seed has come true for many years now...once in a blue moon it will throw a sport, but very seldom... so it's a great tomato with lots of uses... I do know what You are saying JC, market-buyers.. Bedding plants... Some come seeking Big Boy, Beefsteak and Roma...(types we rarely grow out) Usually we still are able to make a sale, selling them heirloom varieties with similar traits(although tastier ) But this year for those, and for the Ace Hardware in Kenyon (quantity buyer) we will raise some bedding plants of each... it's like hot peppers..everyone buys Jalapeños and Serrano peppers, some will get WiLd and go with Habanero...very few venture into the super hots it's LURE them in with the safe/well known varieties...SEDUCE them with the more exotic Phil: For me personally I prefer the older heirloom verities of tomatoes, trouble is they don't seam to be as good a producer or as disease resistant. For some reason......and I think it's the weather here, many verities of tomatoes are hard to grow. I know what you are talking about when it comes to convincing a customer on trying something they are not familiar with. I had one lady come here that wanted one verity of eggplant. I convinced her one day to try another one that I knew was much better in flavor. Rosa Bianca, she tried it and the next week she said please tell me you have more of those wonderful eggplant......I was tempted to say yes for twice the price But no I didn't do that...point is it is hard to convince most people to try something new or to us old, because they are used to that same old thing. we have a CSA owner that we were assiting with produce to fill his weekly boxes..He bought many of the Indian eggplant (bharta star)...but he ALWAYS...had his eye on...and always wanted My Rosa Bianca's.. I've grown them for years...they are about the best they is...but them lil indian ones are mighty good too.. For the most part...Ifin Ya can get em' to taste/try whatever...they'll become a believer...harder, much harder with the super hot peppers |
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Post by jerseycub on Jan 20, 2013 13:32:41 GMT -6
People  who can figure them out  We considered starting a CSA but I like doing my own thing and not being beholding to anyone. We have enough to deal with supplying who we deal with now. Cucumbers and summer squash are big movers, I should just grow them and bell peppers. we would just fine. |
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, but i was told thats because of the extreme heat that we had, but it sure was tasty though 
We considered starting a CSA but I like doing my own thing and not being beholding to anyone. We have enough to deal with supplying who we deal with now. Cucumbers and summer squash are big movers, I should just grow them and bell peppers. we would just fine.