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Post by lucy on Jul 25, 2013 3:00:49 GMT -6
We have been planning a trip to Gatlinburg and Smoky mtns. We planned on leaving Dan with Mom as usual. We cleaned the truck up and tried to get everything together. Doing laundry and packing, etc. Dan, started following us and whining and watching. He knew something was up of course. Once we had everything ready and settled down for the night, ready to leave the next morning. He was like someone had died. Just layed around and acted so pitiful. So, we postponed our trip and decided to try him around people and other dogs for a wk before we go. He loves us we have no doubt but he has never been taught to a leash or a crate and hates being left alone. Plus, he loves his outdoor freedom. Bub had a 4 hr. safety training class for his license yest. we took Dan with us. (We have only taken him to town with us once before like last yr). He did great. He didn't bark at people and rode good. Didn't bother us when we ate, which we bought him food too. Me and Hubby went to an old clinic and took some pics and hubby walked him on the leash for about 45 min, no problems. We get all the way back to our road home(which is 4 miles long) and he heard a dog barking, he whined a little. We saw a deer, he barked. A dog barked and chased us, he really barked. Then we saw 4 people and 2 dogs walking and he threw a fit. I had him by the harness but he is strong and he cut my stomach and it is bruised today. So, we still don't know what to do. I'm sure he'd be happy as long as we were with him. but I am also sure he will not be happy alone in a hotel room. We are torn and running out of time before school starts. There is nobody to take care of him like we do. Mommy does her best and she would gladly do it but she has her own dog to think about. What do we do?  Help! |
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Post by spuds on Jul 25, 2013 9:24:48 GMT -6
Talk to vet,my mutts had severe separation anxiety,the thing that worked for us was Ace Promazine. Comes in 25 mg tabs,girl needs 2.25 tabs,snooky 1.5,it really helped a lot.You adjust dosage to response and weight of muttster.Not expensive either.
Girl ate a Bee,I gave her a 12.5 mg benadryl,she slept about 3 hours.So that might be something to try,but ask vet if OK first,not sure if its standard dog med or not,but I didnt want a swollen mouth so tossed one in.
We only medicate when dogs have to be home alone while we are working.Is he a problem when home alone tearing up things?
There is also a drug they give 2 times a day for life,wasnt interested in that,too expensive and didnt want a drugged up doggie.
They also have doggie prozac,we never tried that.
Ativan was a major flop,made em crazy hyper.
BTW,Spuds was a horrible car dog,would scream the entire trip,took a couple years for her to outgrow that,boy that was fun....NOT!
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Post by jerseycub on Jul 25, 2013 14:44:52 GMT -6
Ruth traveled with dogs for better then 18years when she was showing and breading Brittany's. The answer is put him in a dog Crate, when you go out and leave him in the room. When we went to visit caveman we brought Buster and Meesha they stayed in the cabin when we went out in there crates. That's the way you can travel with animals.
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Post by lucy on Jul 26, 2013 2:08:17 GMT -6
We can leave him home alone, he doesn't bother a thing. And is completely housebroken. But we take him to Mom's when we leave and she keeps him in for 10 min. or so and then let's him out. He sniffs our trail to the car. And comes down the hill to see if we are home then goes back and forth over and over until we come home. He has never been in a crate, so don't know how that would work. We left him with Mom once and he went missing for 4 wks. He was 4 miles from home. A girl saw him the day after we came back and we went and searched several times. Bub goes to school there and we are in Buckhorn 3-5 times a wk and never saw him. We had about given up hope and my sister-in-law saw him one day, she went to sign Bub outta school but he hadn't turned a sign-out list in so she got her own son out but Dan wouldn't come to them. We had printed posters with his pic and offered a reward. We ran all over asking people and a couple diff. ones had seen him. Bub stayed at a baseball game and we came home to eat supper and were going back to search some more. Bub called, he had found him. He was starved, dirty, full of ticks. But he was safe!! We have left him with her after that for a wk and he was fine. He'd go in and stay at nt with her but he just seems so much more attached now. Not sure what to do.
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Post by jerseycub on Jul 26, 2013 8:11:20 GMT -6
We can leave him home alone, he doesn't bother a thing. And is completely housebroken. But we take him to Mom's when we leave and she keeps him in for 10 min. or so and then let's him out. He sniffs our trail to the car. And comes down the hill to see if we are home then goes back and forth over and over until we come home. He has never been in a crate, so don't know how that would work. We left him with Mom once and he went missing for 4 wks. He was 4 miles from home. A girl saw him the day after we came back and we went and searched several times. Bub goes to school there and we are in Buckhorn 3-5 times a wk and never saw him. We had about given up hope and my sister-in-law saw him one day, she went to sign Bub outta school but he hadn't turned a sign-out list in so she got her own son out but Dan wouldn't come to them. We had printed posters with his pic and offered a reward. We ran all over asking people and a couple diff. ones had seen him. Bub stayed at a baseball game and we came home to eat supper and were going back to search some more. Bub called, he had found him. He was starved, dirty, full of ticks. But he was safe!! We have left him with her after that for a wk and he was fine. He'd go in and stay at nt with her but he just seems so much more attached now. Not sure what to do. Like I said he should be crated when you guys are out. Try him with a crate at home at night put one of his favorite things in there with him, let him get used to it. It's the safest way for him to travel and when you are out the safest place for him to stay. Your dog your choice I know but this is how every handler keeps there dogs for traveling. |
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Post by spuds on Jul 26, 2013 11:06:32 GMT -6
Around here we have pet sitters and a lot of the vets also do boarding,they have escape proof setups and from what Ive heard some dogs actually enjoy spending time with the other muttsters.
If we cant take dogs,we dont go.I dont trust my dogs with ANYONE but me,but I went through the lost dog things as a kid,so its what I do now.
However,it is a good option I would think.
BTW,I remember the lost dog episode,that was amazing when you found him again.
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Post by lucy on Jul 28, 2013 0:54:25 GMT -6
Around here we have pet sitters and a lot of the vets also do boarding,they have escape proof setups and from what Ive heard some dogs actually enjoy spending time with the other muttsters. If we cant take dogs,we dont go.I dont trust my dogs with ANYONE but me,but I went through the lost dog things as a kid,so its what I do now. However,it is a good option I would think. BTW,I remember the lost dog episode,that was amazing when you found him again. My cousin is a pet sitter in GA. Wish she lived here. Don't know anyone we would trust or Dan would mind. Mom is our only choice. She loves him and he will go in and spend the nt with her. Still don't know what to do. |
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Post by w8in4dave on Jul 28, 2013 7:13:14 GMT -6
Too bad you don't have someone you can trust to come to your house and sit. I know I have the same problem with my dog. I went To N.C. and left him with my daughter. She did have to crate him 1 time. I told her not to leave him in the house alone, she did and he tore the shades up.. That'll cost me! So she crated him, put him in the middle of the kitchen floor with nothing he could pull in or tear up around him. He whines and scratches but after a while he settles down. I would maby try the crate and maby something to calm him. I had other friends watch him , but they let him out and he took off, came back the next morning but, that was enuf for them. If he could be at least chained maby your mom could do it. She lets him out and chains him up, and then back in. He will pine away for you but he will survive.
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Post by jerseycub on Jul 28, 2013 7:39:24 GMT -6
Ruth has boarded dogs for people like you guys...who don't trust anyone!! And she was well liked because they always got special treatment. You want to leave your dog with us it's $40.00 a day.  Look save your money and follow good advice and this goes for everyone, Train you dogs to except a crate in the house...so you can travel with them when you are going on vacation...if that's your desire. This is what is done by professionals in the dog world. It's safe,humane,and makes good sense. Lucy you are making yourself crazy over a simple solution and keeping you and your husband from enjoying a good time. Make a decision and get on with your life dear. I mean that in the most respectful way. |
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Post by bigdog on Jul 28, 2013 20:50:31 GMT -6
I have to agree with the crate training. All my dogs have been crate trained. Greyson prefers his crate over the bed now. Which kind of sucks as sometimes it would be nice to cuddle but nope he can't stay on the bed longer then five minutes. I am assuming no fenced in yard so leash training then also.
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Post by BestoFour on Jul 28, 2013 21:50:32 GMT -6
We leave our big dog with the vet. They have a big outside area and then he goes into a gigantic crate at night and if he wants during the day. The crate is to give them security. Our dog doesn't seem to mind it even though he lives outside at home.
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Post by lucy on Jul 29, 2013 2:20:31 GMT -6
No our yard is not fenced in. He does good on the leash, surprising as he has only been on it a few times. We are in the country here, we have a walking path from here to Mom's and he can venture on out to my nieces house on another path. My neighbor feeds him. So, we have had no need to crate him or put him on leash. But we took him to a park about 50 miles from home and he did great on the leash. Then yest. took him to our park/campground which is 4 miles from our house. We walked him on the leash through the campground and park. There were I think a total of 5 dogs. All of which barked at him, he whined and pulled on the leash but no barking. I was so proud of him.
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Post by lucy on Jul 29, 2013 2:28:16 GMT -6
Ruth has boarded dogs for people like you guys...who don't trust anyone!! And she was well liked because they always got special treatment. You want to leave your dog with us it's $40.00 a day. Look save your money and follow good advice and this goes for everyone, Train you dogs to except a crate in the house...so you can travel with them when you are going on vacation...if that's your desire. This is what is done by professionals in the dog world. It's safe,humane,and makes good sense. Lucy you are making yourself crazy over a simple solution and keeping you and your husband from enjoying a good time. Make a decision and get on with your life dear. I mean that in the most respectful way. Sorry Jerseycub but for us it is not such a simple solution. We are limited on time and don't have time to train him to a crate, which hubby would never agree too anyway. My sister-in-law has 2 dogs, and keeps them crated hours and hours, so inhumane to us. We never wanted a house dog to go through this with after Little Jack, but Bub get so attached and now we all are and he is attached to us. So, no disrespect but if we left him and something happened, we'd never forgive ourselves, or if we take him and he is miserable the whole time, then we too are going to be miserable. |
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Post by jerseycub on Jul 29, 2013 6:02:31 GMT -6
Lucy I completely understand your feelings, I hope you don't feel I was being to abrupt about crating. Ruth has trained her dogs from puppy's to except a crate and they love it. It becomes there sanctuary as they grow up. In your case your dog has never been introduced to a crate and wouldn't understand at first, but had he been introduced to the crate as a puppy he would have loved it.
A crate on the contrary is not inhumane rather it is a safe place for them in a car, it actually protects them from being tossed around if there is an accident. And to be put in a crate when no one is there keeps them out of danger and trouble when in a strange place. As BigDog said they become attached to the crate at home, you leave the door off or opened and at night they go there on there own. Again if they are trained to a crate from a puppy. Good luck Lucy with Bud. I'm sure you will work something out.
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Post by w8in4dave on Jul 29, 2013 7:52:19 GMT -6
I do believe in crates, but I understand where your coming from Lucy, Crating for 8 ,10 hrs. Is a very long time.
When you see dogs get treated like that 1st thing you think is " I will NEVER do that to my dog." But you can crate train them and not leave them in it for 8 10 hrs. I have no room to talk my dog is not crate trained. I tried! I tried !I tried!! It was weeks on end and all he did was whine and cry all night! finally hubbs got up went and got him and put him on our bed. He has just been in a crate a few times since. He whines cries , barks, tears stuff up! <<-- if he can get to anything. Broke the bottom right out of the crate. He is only a Shihtzu. Your dog is smart! Very smart! He would probably take to a crate pretty good.
I got my dog from the girl I used to baby sit. She has 5 Shitzu's maby 6 but who's counting? Anyhoo she crate trained all her dogs, when she lived at home her bedroom was in the basement. She'd go down to go to bed and all her lil dogs were like ducks, lol following her down stairs, each one would go in their crate. She didn't even have to close the doors. Some times in the AM one of the dogs would be in the other crate with the mom. After seeing that I wished I'd of trained Harley to be crated. It is their "Safe" spot also if someone is bothering them they go to their crate. No one is allowed to bother them when they are in their crate.
I know it is not the answer to your problem. If you could find someone maby to stay at your house and take him for walks and stuff on the leash. Because really if he realizes your gone he may take off again. It is a hard thing!! I cringe every time I think of going away!I think " What about my dog? " Dave works 10 hr days and drives an hr. there and back. When Harley Passes I don't think I will get another dog. Unless it is crate trained!! Good luck sweetie..
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Post by spuds on Jul 29, 2013 13:16:39 GMT -6
Lucy I completely understand your feelings, I hope you don't feel I was being to abrupt about crating. Ruth has trained her dogs from puppy's to except a crate and they love it. It becomes there sanctuary as they grow up. In your case your dog has never been introduced to a crate and wouldn't understand at first, but had he been introduced to the crate as a puppy he would have loved it. A crate on the contrary is not inhumane rather it is a safe place for them in a car, it actually protects them from being tossed around if there is an accident. And to be put in a crate when no one is there keeps them out of danger and trouble when in a strange place. As BigDog said they become attached to the crate at home, you leave the door off or opened and at night they go there on there own. Again if they are trained to a crate from a puppy. Good luck Lucy with Bud. I'm sure you will work something out. I think you hit the nail on the head,Ive never had issues with puppies,but rescues,whole nuther ballgame.They come with a lot of baggage after being in the killing factory after being lost,abandoned,mistreated,unloved,etc etc etc..Both of mine were starving and at deaths door,Snooky was on her last day,knew it and doesnt forget anything ever,makes them so challenging.They literally dragged her out with a leash,she was curled on the floor and wet herself,totally lifeless dog,it was horrible,do I ever love that critter,you better believe it.I IMMEDIATELY said "I'll take her!" "Are you sure? " "OH YEAH!!" How could I let that animal die? ? Yes,I love that dog and she loves us,to the death and feels a need to put her life on the line in return at any time for us.Quite a bond so the baggage,just part of the deal. Now she has survival issues.... will never let herself be in that position,now she dominates as a survival thing...it happens again she plans to go out fighting literally,not whimpering lifeless in fear.Makes life challenging,it will take years,if she ever manages to mellow. She also defends us like you wouldnt believe,she knows no fear now,now its FIGHT TIME...meets ANYTHING with a fearless charge that worries her. Yup,challenging for sure. Puppies,piece of cake making a happy puppy into a secure dog.   |
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Post by w8in4dave on Jul 29, 2013 22:03:59 GMT -6
yup security!! That is the biggest thing right there!! They have to feel secure!! no matter what!
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Post by Laura on Jul 30, 2013 20:02:17 GMT -6
You know we have a kitten..& she is a BALL of ENERGY!! Big time..we decided to kennel train her. Why?? We will be able to take her with us where ever we go. She does not potty in her kennel..she sleeps in it only. She does not get punished & put in it. She knows.." bad kitty" & she will run to the living room under the table. But only for a second. I can say it is so much easier to know where she is at night & she sleeps good & so do we. Her name is SWEETIE!! She does not eat in it either. Good kitty!  |
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Post by lucy on Jul 31, 2013 2:46:17 GMT -6
Lucy I completely understand your feelings, I hope you don't feel I was being to abrupt about crating. Ruth has trained her dogs from puppy's to except a crate and they love it. It becomes there sanctuary as they grow up. In your case your dog has never been introduced to a crate and wouldn't understand at first, but had he been introduced to the crate as a puppy he would have loved it. A crate on the contrary is not inhumane rather it is a safe place for them in a car, it actually protects them from being tossed around if there is an accident. And to be put in a crate when no one is there keeps them out of danger and trouble when in a strange place. As BigDog said they become attached to the crate at home, you leave the door off or opened and at night they go there on there own. Again if they are trained to a crate from a puppy. Good luck Lucy with Bud. I'm sure you will work something out. No Jerseycub, I don't think that at all. I wish we had crate trained him. I know if it is done right it is not inhumane at all just from what we have seen, some people overuse the crates. We have decided to leave Dan with Mom. He will spend the night with her and sleep in his own bed. He is just lonely and misses us when we leave him. But we took him camping with us last yr and he had to be on a leash, tied up or in the camper the whole time and he was not happy. We brought him home the second day and left him with Mom. Hope I didn't sound disrespectful earlier or anything. I appreciate all the advice and like I sd. I wish we had crate and leash trained him, but he was never meant to be a house dog. |
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Post by lucy on Jul 31, 2013 3:05:25 GMT -6
Lucy I completely understand your feelings, I hope you don't feel I was being to abrupt about crating. Ruth has trained her dogs from puppy's to except a crate and they love it. It becomes there sanctuary as they grow up. In your case your dog has never been introduced to a crate and wouldn't understand at first, but had he been introduced to the crate as a puppy he would have loved it. A crate on the contrary is not inhumane rather it is a safe place for them in a car, it actually protects them from being tossed around if there is an accident. And to be put in a crate when no one is there keeps them out of danger and trouble when in a strange place. As BigDog said they become attached to the crate at home, you leave the door off or opened and at night they go there on there own. Again if they are trained to a crate from a puppy. Good luck Lucy with Bud. I'm sure you will work something out. I think you hit the nail on the head,Ive never had issues with puppies,but rescues,whole nuther ballgame.They come with a lot of baggage after being in the killing factory after being lost,abandoned,mistreated,unloved,etc etc etc..Both of mine were starving and at deaths door,Snooky was on her last day,knew it and doesnt forget anything ever,makes them so challenging.They literally dragged her out with a leash,she was curled on the floor and wet herself,totally lifeless dog,it was horrible,do I ever love that critter,you better believe it.I IMMEDIATELY said "I'll take her!" "Are you sure? " "OH YEAH!!" How could I let that animal die? ? Yes,I love that dog and she loves us,to the death and feels a need to put her life on the line in return at any time for us.Quite a bond so the baggage,just part of the deal. Now she has survival issues.... will never let herself be in that position,now she dominates as a survival thing...it happens again she plans to go out fighting literally,not whimpering lifeless in fear.Makes life challenging,it will take years,if she ever manages to mellow. She also defends us like you wouldnt believe,she knows no fear now,now its FIGHT TIME...meets ANYTHING with a fearless charge that worries her. Yup,challenging for sure. Puppies,piece of cake making a happy puppy into a secure dog. |
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Post by lucy on Jul 31, 2013 3:05:54 GMT -6
Lucy I completely understand your feelings, I hope you don't feel I was being to abrupt about crating. Ruth has trained her dogs from puppy's to except a crate and they love it. It becomes there sanctuary as they grow up. In your case your dog has never been introduced to a crate and wouldn't understand at first, but had he been introduced to the crate as a puppy he would have loved it. A crate on the contrary is not inhumane rather it is a safe place for them in a car, it actually protects them from being tossed around if there is an accident. And to be put in a crate when no one is there keeps them out of danger and trouble when in a strange place. As BigDog said they become attached to the crate at home, you leave the door off or opened and at night they go there on there own. Again if they are trained to a crate from a puppy. Good luck Lucy with Bud. I'm sure you will work something out. I think you hit the nail on the head,Ive never had issues with puppies,but rescues,whole nuther ballgame.They come with a lot of baggage after being in the killing factory after being lost,abandoned,mistreated,unloved,etc etc etc..Both of mine were starving and at deaths door,Snooky was on her last day,knew it and doesnt forget anything ever,makes them so challenging.They literally dragged her out with a leash,she was curled on the floor and wet herself,totally lifeless dog,it was horrible,do I ever love that critter,you better believe it.I IMMEDIATELY said "I'll take her!" "Are you sure? " "OH YEAH!!" How could I let that animal die? ? Yes,I love that dog and she loves us,to the death and feels a need to put her life on the line in return at any time for us.Quite a bond so the baggage,just part of the deal. Now she has survival issues.... will never let herself be in that position,now she dominates as a survival thing...it happens again she plans to go out fighting literally,not whimpering lifeless in fear.Makes life challenging,it will take years,if she ever manages to mellow. She also defends us like you wouldnt believe,she knows no fear now,now its FIGHT TIME...meets ANYTHING with a fearless charge that worries her. Yup,challenging for sure. Puppies,piece of cake making a happy puppy into a secure dog. She is beautiful! |
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Post by lucy on Jul 31, 2013 3:08:45 GMT -6
I hope I didn't sound disrespectful or like I didn't appreciate the advice. Believe me, I wish we had crate trained him as a puppy. But he was never meant to be a house dog. Thanks to everyone for your comments and advice. We have decided to leave him with Mom. Which I hate to do, it is stressful on her but she sd, it makes her feel closer to us when we are gone.
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Post by spuds on Jul 31, 2013 7:37:52 GMT -6
I hope I didn't sound disrespectful or like I didn't appreciate the advice. Believe me, I wish we had crate trained him as a puppy. But he was never meant to be a house dog. Thanks to everyone for your comments and advice. We have decided to leave him with Mom. Which I hate to do, it is stressful on her but she sd, it makes her feel closer to us when we are gone. You know what? Maybe Bud will bond with Mom while youre gone? Mine have fallen for my BIL, "Uncle" Ricky.I say want to see Uncle Ricky and the eyes light up and the ears pop up.Their big treat in life is el cheapo frozen hotdogs,pupsicles we call em.Well....last visit their Uncle showed up with a 3 lb pack of dogs,boy,were they ever excited.They LOOOOVE Uncle Ricky,LOL! Girl especially loves the attention from Rick,and Rick likes being loved by them as he cant have pets were he lives,so he gets 'his' doggies when he visits. Maybe Bud will fall for Mom? Wouldnt that be a nice outcome.Is there a special treat,yummy bones or something she can bribe him with? Ours will do anything for a frozen beef rib,YUMM! |
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Post by spuds on Jul 31, 2013 7:45:37 GMT -6
HEHEHE!!!
When we married I had three dogs,wife had 2 and a cat.We did some traveling Nurse work...in a 23 foot motorhome we had a Great Dane,a lab,a lab mix,a terrier,and a shih tzu,a cat,3 fish and house plants.
I tell ya,we were quite the crew.The amazing part was how well the cat traveled and he didnt run off,really amazing.They all went outside together to potty and never an issue.
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Post by w8in4dave on Jul 31, 2013 21:05:08 GMT -6
Lucy , your ok  I don't think anyone sounded disrespectful , just all saying the way we feel. I think being able to travel with an animal is wonderful!! I wish I'd of Kennel Trained Harley!! I should look into it to see if it is too late or not.. Hmmmm?? Google!! Lol But even so , ! I took him last fall, it was ok, it was cooler out and he could stay in the car. But jeesh I cannot leave him in a house at all alone!! He is my PITA!!! Glad you worked it out!! Lucy!! Cannot wait for the pics!! I think I may try to work out Harley's issues!! pffttt! This is what he does... I am doing dishes and Harley wants out. I open the back door, If I don't go outside 1st. He won't go out. If for some reason he is out and I am inside he sits by the back door. If Dave and I are going somewhere and Harley is so excited to go, Dave will walk out hold the door open for the Harley and he will sit down till I am going out. He is obsessed ... I have to make him get over it! |
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Post by jerseycub on Aug 1, 2013 6:18:39 GMT -6
Lucy , your ok I don't think anyone sounded disrespectful , just all saying the way we feel. I think being able to travel with an animal is wonderful!! I wish I'd of Kennel Trained Harley!! I should look into it to see if it is too late or not.. Hmmmm?? Google!! Lol But even so , ! I took him last fall, it was ok, it was cooler out and he could stay in the car. But jeesh I cannot leave him in a house at all alone!! He is my PITA!!! Glad you worked it out!! Lucy!! Cannot wait for the pics!! I think I may try to work out Harley's issues!! pffttt! This is what he does... I am doing dishes and Harley wants out. I open the back door, If I don't go outside 1st. He won't go out. If for some reason he is out and I am inside he sits by the back door. If Dave and I are going somewhere and Harley is so excited to go, Dave will walk out hold the door open for the Harley and he will sit down till I am going out. He is obsessed ... I have to make him get over it! Dogs ya got ta love em. They are more loving and loyal then cats....and I know people are going to say I'm wrong, but cats are much more independent then dogs. Dogs want to please us and for the most part they want our attention, cat on the other hand have there moments but want there independents. I prefer cats myself because they require much less attention and can take care of themselves when needed. Just thought I would add that I have owned many dogs in my life and loved everyone of them, some were as close to human as they could be....but better. They were always honest and loyal. Maybe that's why I decided not to try and replace Buster! My wife Ruth has bread, trained, judged, and given classes on handling dogs for better then 20yrs as well as ran a kennel and is a professional groomer. Ruth has probably forgotten more about dogs then most people know....that's who I get my knowledge from. Ruth just isn't one for communicating on a computer as I am. But Lucy I'm not offended by you in any way, as everyone else has said we are just trying to help....and you worked it out on your own. That's great!! |
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Post by spuds on Aug 1, 2013 9:02:17 GMT -6
My wife Ruth has bread, trained, judged, and given classes on handling dogs for better then 20yrs as well as ran a kennel and is a professional groomer. Ruth has probably forgotten more about dogs then most people know.... Very cool! |
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Post by w8in4dave on Aug 1, 2013 22:27:44 GMT -6
I absolutely LOVE cats!! I think your right!! They are alot more independent !! But sadly I am allergic to them  I keep them outside , play with them feed them! And then I go in for the night!! But I can appreciate those who can have them in the house! |
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Post by lucy on Aug 2, 2013 1:05:57 GMT -6
I absolutely LOVE cats!! I think your right!! They are alot more independent !! But sadly I am allergic to them I keep them outside , play with them feed them! And then I go in for the night!! But I can appreciate those who can have them in the house! Sadly, I too am allergic to cats. We had house cats when Bub was small, but they had to go outside. Don't even own a cat rt now. Miss 'em but Dan being a hound not sure how he'd handle one. |
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Post by w8in4dave on Aug 2, 2013 6:43:19 GMT -6
You'd be surprised Lucy!! We just gave a kitten away to a friend that has a hound lol Kinda reminds me of Dan. The Dog's name is Levi. Levi wanted to chase the cat, but the cat was not interested in running (used to Harley) . Cat and dog now are friends. It hasn't even been a week since they had the cat. lol funny stuff!! I am really surprised these people wanted a cat , with Levi, and they were unsure, I told them if it didn't work out they could give the cat back. Needless to say , cat is still gone!
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Help!
I keep them outside , play with them feed them! And then I go in for the night!!