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Post by spuds on Jan 15, 2014 13:10:44 GMT -6
Looks like its going to happen,been studying and making a building list. Size about 10 x 16 feet.Bottom will be framed in Redwood.2x6 boards.Unless Redwood ridiculously priced. Hoops will be just under 20 feet of either 1 or 1.5 inch plastic electrical conduit.Depends which can take the bend angle.Going to put on 2 foot centers for strength. Will use 6 mil plastic UV protected cover,4 year warranty. As for planting,will be an aquaponic system with both gravel and deep water rafting beds. Winter will be inside hoops over beds with probably Christmas lights,15 watt bulb style, for extra heat,depends on what we want to grow in winter. Greenhouse probably come in at 400 dollars or so. Ours will look something like this.We will get a storm door for a door,and include a couple vents in end walls.
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Post by ChileFarmer on Jan 15, 2014 18:43:04 GMT -6
Spuds, sounds like one of those fun projects. Keep us informed with photos. CF
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Jan 16, 2014 3:55:26 GMT -6
where ya getting your plastic Spuds? will you use pvc couplings/tee's etc.? I have seen these and even speculated building one...I was going to go for 20 ft. cattle panels for the hoops...will be interesting to learn from this
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Post by spuds on Jan 16, 2014 5:58:34 GMT -6
where ya getting your plastic Spouds? will you use pvc couplings/tee's etc.? I have seen these and even speculated building one...I was going to go for 20 ft. cattle panels for the hoops...will be interesting to learn from this Farmtek for the plastic.The conduit and boards from Lowes,the conduit is already setup to glue the sections together so no Tees.Conduit preferred over pvc r/t UV protection. This guy has good videos on doing it,takes about a half hour to watch.Each about 6 minutes,about the best one Ive seen and I watched em for 2 days and did glean ideas here and there,but this guy really nails it. Super simple,if you can glue and cut PVC,and cut and nail a few boards to make a level base edge,you got it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8dlASt43gMwww.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ-g1SI13M8www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvS6aiYYufIwww.youtube.com/watch?v=UbF2S4MSsywwww.youtube.com/watch?v=khMmBxxjE5c
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Post by w8in4dave on Jan 16, 2014 20:01:07 GMT -6
You have it all under control!! We will want to see pics as it goes along
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Jan 17, 2014 4:08:54 GMT -6
I'll have to view these time permitting...how you connecting the hoops together then without tee's?
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Jan 17, 2014 6:36:02 GMT -6
Hey Spuds...check out this article: >> Hoop Housepretty detailed ...what Ya think..
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Post by spuds on Jan 17, 2014 11:58:04 GMT -6
Its done by horizontal supports called Perlins. #1 will be a 1x4 board thats drilled thru to the hoop and gets bolted together.Thats the hipboard where the plastic cover will be attached,held on by two 1x2's that are attached to hipboard after plastic applied. #2 are pipes (the same material as the hoops) that get drilled to the hoops and bolted.There is also one at the ridgeline. Watch this part,shows perlins going on,its 2 minutes www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvS6aiYYufI
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Post by spuds on Jan 17, 2014 12:09:16 GMT -6
Hey Spuds...check out this article: >> Hoop House pretty detailed ...what Ya think.. ======================================
Yep,seen that one before,collapsed due to LACK of perlins,of all things.But its a GREAT link and gets out how cheaply they can be constructed,or how expensively.Its a fine system because it covers all income levels.Mine will be the mid priced because im using plastic hoops and cover,the higher end is the metal hoops and panels for covers.
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Post by spuds on Jan 17, 2014 15:07:54 GMT -6
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Post by spuds on Jan 17, 2014 15:27:12 GMT -6
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Jan 18, 2014 8:07:40 GMT -6
will have to check links out bro...making Birthday cake & "stuff" .. Perlins, yep, just wondered about attaching..we made on once off the side of a friends house..we used pvc and 4 way tee's at perlin/hoop junctions..lasted many years (may still be there)
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Post by spuds on Jan 23, 2014 5:44:48 GMT -6
Got a line on storm door,and some (6?) 10 foot sections of 1/2 PVC will use for Perlins.From thrift store,didnt pick up,was unsure about the hinge on door,now makes sense after watching youtubes.
Should cost about 20 bucks.
Yes,will photograph full build and costs.
WOW! Just looking at greenhouse doors,can you say 300 dollars??!!
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Jan 23, 2014 7:55:01 GMT -6
Got a line on storm door,and some (6?) 10 foot sections of 1/2 PVC will use for Perlins.From thrift store,didnt pick up,was unsure about the hinge on door,now makes sense after watching youtubes. Should cost about 20 bucks. Yes,will photograph full build and costs. WOW! Just looking at greenhouse doors,can you say 300 dollars??!! I looked long and hard for cheap stuff for a hoop or greenhouse...the way You are going about it is the only feasible way for anyone I know...carry on Bro... interested in the finished project
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Post by spuds on Jun 23, 2014 4:01:25 GMT -6
Got my stakes to level the base,4 treated 4x4 and 18 1.5 inch 10 foot conduits for 170 dollars. Im doing mine like Jackie at backwoods home www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/JackieClay/here is her picture,mine will be 12x12
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Post by spuds on Jun 28, 2014 23:23:59 GMT -6
This will take me all season.Its going to be 12x12 foot.I will get pics as it moves along.Want it covered by late fall and the aquaponic system running.Will have to order the plastic cover when the time comes for it. Instead of hydroponics it will be powered by fish poo,hence aquaponic.Aqua has the advantage as you dont need chemicals like hydroponics and once set up its pretty much plug and play. Whats going on so far... My first stop was the thrift store... Thrift store for 20 dollars.I made out real good. Storm door pretty nice shape,screen good.Solid core.Both windows open properly,easily. The pipes are 10 feet long,1/2 inch.5 PVC,1 metal conduit.May or may not use as Perlins(looks like they wont be used) The window is brand new,PVC.It says Sample for Mike J on it. ============================================= Those 4x4's will be the doorway and support the ridge-post.The PVC conduit are 10 feet,will take at least 2 per hoop,depending on how I curve the walls will determine if they will be longer,Im thinking 25 foot each hoop On the left is Girl and her toy,she is a sweety.Background is Snooky,she is one serious guard dog,doesnt take any gruff from anything.The building behind is our Barn,was a house at one time,now a barn for us.The background baseboard will be raised 11 inches with 2x6 12 foot boards.The foreground board is up 4 inches on a rock wall,had no idea I still had that much slope going on,11 inches,wow! Getting some staking done,after that will level baseboards and be pounding in the pvc that will connect to the hoops. ================================================= Had to re-do the end on the slope,putting new boards on to fill in. Replaced the stakes with taller ones,removed the trex board and top and second board are pressure treated 2x6.Trex will go on bottom against dirt.Needs to last 40 years,Im 57 now,figure 97 about right. 8) Used small floor jack to raise the frame,worked well,then attached to stakes A lot of slope to fill in yet,will get boards tomorrow to do sides.This base has become a lot more project than I thought thanks to the slopes. Coming along nicely,slow and steady and not killing myself.
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Post by spuds on Jun 29, 2014 10:17:55 GMT -6
Today 128 dollars...
Post-hole digger and post/pipe level
pressure treated lumber....2- 2x4 x 8 feet,2- 2x6 x 10 feet,3- 2x6 x 12 feet.
8 connecting metal Brackets.12 pack of stakes.
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Post by spuds on Jun 30, 2014 21:29:08 GMT -6
Got the trex removed from the top on sides and replaced with pressure treated 2x6. Tomorrow will cut and fill in bottom with trex along the ground. Got the sides staked,and all the stakes cut to level. Photos at 8 PM,can see my official chicken and duck corral has some sleepy birdies ready to go to bed
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Post by w8in4dave on Jul 1, 2014 7:22:55 GMT -6
Looking great spuds! Great Job!
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Post by spuds on Jul 1, 2014 15:05:57 GMT -6
Base is finally done,look to the left and right and can see trex now on the ground.You can see by the backfill the left to right slope,and the front to back slope. Next I will put up 4x4's for the door and to support the Ridgepole.Will probably dig the holes tomorrow and think about it,I want at least 40 inches on the opening so I can get the IBC Totes that will be the fishponds in.Need to think out what I will do on the doorway. Left side Right side,thats a shadow,no gaps between boards So what I learned is PROOF there is a Heaven and Hell.In Hell they make you build greenhouse bases.The worse you are,the more slope you get. Also you dont need to waterboard suspects.Just put them on 1000 acres of slope.Make them build greenhouses,they will crack in a week.
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Post by spuds on Jul 2, 2014 13:17:27 GMT -6
I wont be working on it for a couple days but this is whats coming next to give you a basic idea....
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Post by spuds on Jul 2, 2014 16:34:12 GMT -6
Got some more done today.Got all the pipes pounded in that the hoops will attach to.Woke up feeling a little sore but it worked right out,so went to work.Being careful to pace myself,joints arent what they used to be,being careful.Ordered 5 inch carriage bolts,nuts and washers.1 lb 4 inch deck screws,all stainless steel,47 dollars online
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Jul 3, 2014 3:25:43 GMT -6
taking shape Bro tky
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Post by spuds on Jul 8, 2014 16:01:26 GMT -6
Pipes,cement,screws,4x4 treated...94 dollars.
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Post by w8in4dave on Jul 10, 2014 14:59:53 GMT -6
Good deal! Are you almost done with it??
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Post by spuds on Jul 10, 2014 21:52:03 GMT -6
No,much to do yet.
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Post by spuds on Jul 11, 2014 16:26:04 GMT -6
Filled the hoop pipes with cement and screwed them into boards,added the connections.
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Post by spuds on Jul 12, 2014 16:19:33 GMT -6
Big day today.Got the 4x4's planted.Represents the end of cement work,and last of the heavy boards.They will have a cross-member on top,on top of that will sit the ridgepole,that 2x6 by the fence.The hoops will attach to that.That will be 7 foot tall. Real happy with the plumb on the posts,not bad for a schmuck and the mrs,my carpentry/building skills are a 3 on the 10 scale at best.
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Post by spuds on Jul 13, 2014 16:57:26 GMT -6
Today I worked on hoops,found out 22 foot pipes gives me the angle I want on sidewalls for most room.Thats the biggest one in this picture. In an ideal world you would get even sunlight on pipes,making a bend very easy,the pipe would itself assume the bend angle. My yard isnt ideal,only one side of pipes get full sun,so bend was very uneven,I will have to make a jig,at that the curve wont be perfectly symmetrical,but will be close enough.Fortunately Im not building a house so I have plenty of leeway. Seems the trick will just be getting all the pipes bent the same. 1.5 inch conduit is not easy to bend. In the sun tomorrow I will work on getting my jig as close as possible.
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Post by Pharmer Phil on Jul 15, 2014 4:31:33 GMT -6
It's taking shape Bro...won't be long now...can't wait to see the finished product...they say a mild winter is coming..for me to do something like this..I'd need a warmer fall and a warmer spring ..after the gardens are put away..Before the garden is planted...Great work
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